Xann Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: This is great. The "Tactical Truth" is very fascinating. Where people know you need to just lie so you have an answer. Nobody believes it but you understand why the situation requires it. Was half minded to investigate whether the the word 'Pravda' had picked up the association of being not quite true from the newspaper's outlook, or if the newspaper was actually just clearly labelled as propaganda from the beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2022 51 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: It's probably a sad reflection of our society but @sidcow's one would be much more recognisable in general. I just went for the one with the best comedic value to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 15, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 15, 2022 54 minutes ago, Xann said: Was half minded to investigate whether the the word 'Pravda' had picked up the association of being not quite true from the newspaper's outlook, or if the newspaper was actually just clearly labelled as propaganda from the beginning? From the beginning. Started out much the same as the Morning Star in being the official newspaper of the Communist Party. It started pre-revolution I think but would have been full of propaganda from the off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) On 13/09/2022 at 21:09, sidcow said: I don't care how one sided your news has been. If you're Russian you've got to ask why the entire western world is so keen to prop up a Nazi regime after fighting a World War to end one. The news / propaganda machine is powerful. My wife is Lithuanian, from a Russian family. She has cousins in Kiev who were from the same Russian family but now consider themselves Ukrainian. Generally speaking if you are <40 you consider yourself Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Latvian etc and are absolutely horrified by what's happening. If you are >40 you reminisce about the Soviet days, consume Russian TV etc. Her parents, who consume everything Russian are 100% behind the war, think Russia is winning (easily) and think this is all Americas fault. The whole world is popping up Ukraine, because they "know" Putin could easily take over the annex the whole of Europe, including the UK if he decided to. Thankfully he has just decided he needs to liberate the former soviet states before America + Nato take them. Edited September 15, 2022 by pas5898 addition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post sidcow Posted September 15, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2022 Putin might not use nukes but is anyone else still worried about that Tidal Wave bomb that's going to wipe us out? Personally I'm building an Ark just in case and disguising it as a series of garden sheds. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, sidcow said: Putin might not use nukes but is anyone else still worried about that Tidal Wave bomb that's going to wipe us out? Personally I'm building an Ark just in case and disguising it as a series of garden sheds. You could just get one of these.... Seabreacher-Z Model Dolphin Inspired - MySubmarines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted September 15, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: How many times have we seen this threat now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, bickster said: How many times have we seen this threat now The other $25billion military hardware already supplied they’re ok with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 15, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: I want to know who photographed that originally and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ender4 said: I want to know who photographed that originally and why? Schoolkids and for a laugh id imagine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Chinese representative here says Russia & China respect each others borders which is why its important to maintain friendly relations (ironic, huh) China’s position is to call for an end to the war, and that other than Ukraine, they are losing out most because of the conflict. Warns that the more Russia are pushed back and suffer defeats on the battleground, the more likely they are to escalate. She asks if they recognise it as an invasion, says no leave that to the historians, and then she says China withdrawing support to Russia will bring an end to the war, which he refutes and claims China supports both Russia and Ukraine. Ive Really learned a lot about how this messed up world really works the last few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CVByrne Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, avfc1982am said: This lads hybrid Irish accent has me laughing a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted September 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2022 Apropos of nothing in particular: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, choffer said: Apropos of nothing in particular: Genuine question to anyone who actually knows a bit more than me about Russian politics etc. Were all these people who died either openly anti the war/Putin, or possibly anti Putin behind the scenes?, or is it something to do with removing certain people to secure certain assets?....something else? What is the thing that links all these people? (im assuming they didnt die for no reason? - i dont mean they deserved to, but more....what links then that they were some possible threat to Putin or his allies?, or why they met their end from "suicide" etc) note: please dont just say "cus Putin bad man no reason blah blah", there must be something linking them? Edited September 15, 2022 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted September 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2022 I’m sure there are others with a better understanding than me but if you check Gazprom’s website, there’s lots of openings for senior exec appointments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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