KentVillan Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 This has really massively cheered me up. I know it’s still early days and it’s the hope that kills you, but does feel like a cloud is starting to lift. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 minute ago, KentVillan said: Any more on this? A lot of people saying it sounds unlikely, but why would this info be coming out if there wasn’t a grain of truth in it? Odd. I agree its highly unlikely, could just be wild rumours spread amongst demoralised russian military Not seen much more on it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2022 21st Century Blitzkrieg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) Hilarious reporting from TASS http://go.tass.ru/jGCrA “The Russian troops stationed at Balakleya and Izyum have been regrouped and redeployed to the Donetsk direction in order to step up efforts there, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov told reporters” Edited September 10, 2022 by Mandy Lifeboats Added details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I was pretty glum with football being off this weekend but with the Ukrainian army kicking goals all over East Ukraine it’s more than made up for it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) It really does look like something absolutely massive is going down this weekend. That Mike Martin guy who has been pretty reliable throughout thinks this could be a war ending manoeuvre as they’re now threatening to encircle the Russians in the south. Just extraordinary. Fingers firmly crossed. Edited September 10, 2022 by KentVillan 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I'm starting to wonder if the Russian Army is totally collapsing from within? I haven't been keeping up to date with news the last week or two, but it seems incredible how quickly Ukraine are taking ground now. Obviously, they've been preparing for this offensive for some time but the manor of the Russian defensive lines collapsing seems a little strange. It's like they've got to the stage where they have just had enough. If the chain of command is falling apart on the ground how long before the repercussions are felt in Moscow I wonder? Some might be feeling a little concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I'm starting to wonder if the Russian Army is totally collapsing from within? I haven't been keeping up to date with news the last week or two, but it seems incredible how quickly Ukraine are taking ground now. Obviously, they've been preparing for this offensive for some time but the manor of the Russian defensive lines collapsing seems a little strange. It's like they've got to the stage where they have just had enough. If the chain of command is falling apart on the ground how long before the repercussions are felt in Moscow I wonder? Some might be feeling a little concerned. That collapse has been precipitated by lots of Ukrainian attacks on supply lines, bridges, pontoon crossings, ammo stores, etc etc. I don’t think it’s purely Russian incompetence, but more that the Ukrainians have worked out how to cause maximum disruption with their attacks, and then taken advantage of weaknesses. Probably guided by state of the art Nato intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 minute ago, KentVillan said: That collapse has been precipitated by lots of Ukrainian attacks on supply lines, bridges, pontoon crossings, ammo stores, etc etc. I don’t think it’s purely Russian incompetence, but more that the Ukrainians have worked out how to cause maximum disruption with their attacks, and then taken advantage of weaknesses. Probably guided by state of the art Nato intel. Yeah, I realise Ukraine have played a bit of a blinder with the attacks in the south cutting of supply lines, logistics etc. Allowing the Russians to think this was where the initial counter offensive would be. I'm more questioning what Russia have been doing in in taking ground. It's like they never had any intention of holding what they occupied, and have now been exhausted to the point whereby only retreating will save them. I suppose the speed that the offensive is moving at is what is most surprising. Great stuff though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 This is very promising, if you read down the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 The Russian soldiers must be thinking if they don’t turn around and retreat back into Russia they’ll be encircled, captured or killed. Not a nice set of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2022 Surely SURELY soon people are going to have to deal with Putin internally. A lot of talk at the start of this was how a Russian leader HAS to look strong. Right now he's looking like a weak leader. Somebody somewhere is going to be emboldened to do something soon surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 The oppressed people of Belgorod Peoples Republic need to be liberated. Belgorod is Ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ender4 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 4 hours ago, bickster said: Pinch of salt time but there are Russian telegram channels reporting that Ukraine have taken Donetsk Airport. That seems somewhat incredulous but there are multiple Russian sources. Donestsk Airport has been under RUssian control since 2015 and had two huge battles there. If they have retaken it, that is massively symbolic It also means Ukraine are pushing forward in a completely different direction again But like I said, pinch of salt Where is Donestsk airport on the map? The Russians already controlled it in 2015? Like just after they took Crimea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, ender4 said: Where is Donestsk airport on the map? The Russians already controlled it in 2015? Like just after they took Crimea? Just outside Donestsk itsitself, which is due north of Maruipol, so whilst Ukraine were attacking in Kherson and Kharkiv they effectively opened a third active front sort of south of the middle bit in the East that they already controlled Yes there were two previous battles of Donestsk airport so it's recapture is somewhat symbolic, there are wiki pages dedicated to the two battles, the second finished in early 2015 with the Russians controlling the airport and the Ukrainians retreating 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 6 months of arguing with pro Putin idiots online has finally come to a close. I wonder what George Galloway and Marie le Pen is thinking on the eve of their paymasters being demolished abroad and likely deposed at home? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted September 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Incidentally, the last time Russia lost a large battle at this pace was in and around Kharkiv oblast in 1943. If Putin had actually read history he’d know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djdabush Posted September 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2022 On 21/08/2022 at 15:39, Arj Guy said: So I guess the million man army summer counter offensive was just all talk. Unfortunately for Ukraine mythical counter offensives and twitter trolling doesn’t win wars Has anyone considered that this supposed counter offensive we've seen the last few days is actually just the result of twitter trolls exaggerating and it doesn't actually exist? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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