bickster Posted April 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, Genie said: Yeah, the blaming is inevitable, but it must start to niggle in their minds “why is EVERYONE putting sanctions in against us?”. There are a proportion that already know, those that don't know will just buy into the persecution by unfriendly states narrative, which has gone on in Russia long before the Russian revolutions into Tsarist times. It's part of the Russian mindset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, Genie said: Yeah, the blaming is inevitable, but it must start to niggle in their minds “why is EVERYONE putting sanctions in against us?”. It isn’t ‘everyone’, it’s the hated NATO countries doing it to them. The majority of the world, including India, China, Africa and most of South America are not taking part. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, LondonLax said: It isn’t ‘everyone’, it’s the hated NATO countries doing it to them. The majority of the world, including India, China, Africa and most of South America are not taking part. With the exception of China, none of those countries are doing any trade the average Russian will ever buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: It seems like Putin is changing the narrative for his home audience from sanctions won't affect us to sanctions from "Unfriendly Countries" are causing problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, Genie said: You have to think that slowly the Russian people will be coming round to the idea “they” are the bad guys. I mean, look at the Navy Uniform, all the clues are there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, sidcow said: I mean, look at the Navy Uniform, all the clues are there. Most of those people pictured are now dead. It's some of the crew of the Moskva and the officer on the right is the Captain of the ship, he's most definitely dead The Russians issued the picture as some sort of proof that there were survivors but as it contains the Captain, who even the Russians admit is dead and the trees are full of green growth, it definitely wasn't taken after the ship sank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Banned from the Olympics, nobody wants to play them at football, unfairly criticised for the liberation of Ukraine, state of the art ships sinking in choppy seas, NATO sneaking in to Russian held territory and spreading dead bodies around and then ‘shopping satellite images. They’ve had a hell of a run of bad luck for those news presenters to convey to the populace. But, they’ve decided and they aren’t going to let facts get in their way. They will double down and double down again. The alternative is that everything they’ve built everything on is wrong, and that would be some matrix sized mental shift to accept that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) Putin, now surely one of the worst dictators in history, has given commendations of valour to the 64th motorised inf brigade. Yes you heard it right, the brigade that slaughtered civilians, had a cellar where they raped underage girls while stationed in Bucha and shot anyone thought to be anti Russia. There’s a special place in hell for Putler and his SS brigade. Edited April 18, 2022 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2022 Missiles hitting Lviv. Dangerously close to Poland. All it takes is one to overshoot and the shit will hit the fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: Missiles hitting Lviv. Dangerously close to Poland. All it takes is one to overshoot and the shit will hit the fan. Poland are gagging to get involved too. Nato have been using Rzeszow airport as a base too, so it's all getting closer than it's ever been, like Russia proding Nato a little bit. Edited April 18, 2022 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, chrisp65 said: But, they’ve decided and they aren’t going to let facts get in their way. They will double down and double down again. The alternative is that everything they’ve built everything on is wrong, and that would be some matrix sized mental shift to accept that. This belongs in more than one thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) Awacs making shapes North Moldova off the coast of Romania Edited April 18, 2022 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: Missiles hitting Lviv. Dangerously close to Poland. All it takes is one to overshoot and the shit will hit the fan. It would just be NATO firing missiles into Poland to justify an attack on poor old Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Come on everyone, time to do your bit. We're down to the last few signatures (citation needed) to force Putin to stop. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Banned from the Olympics, nobody wants to play them at football, unfairly criticised for the liberation of Ukraine, state of the art ships sinking in choppy seas, NATO sneaking in to Russian held territory and spreading dead bodies around and then ‘shopping satellite images. They’ve had a hell of a run of bad luck for those news presenters to convey to the populace. But, they’ve decided and they aren’t going to let facts get in their way. They will double down and double down again. The alternative is that everything they’ve built everything on is wrong, and that would be some matrix sized mental shift to accept that. I wonder though if that “us against the world” attitude is something human beings in general (not just Russians) are very good at adapting to. North Korea, Mourinho’s first Chelsea team, the punk rock revivalists Towers of London… they all just learn embrace the hatred and the pariah status, it becomes a positive part of your identity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Come on everyone, time to do your bit. We're down to the last few signatures (citation needed) to force Putin to stop. I note without any hint of irony that Sinn Fein are part of the "Global Peace Movement" now I can just see Putin wondering who Corbyn is, someone whispers in his ear "He's the puppet of that Seumas Milne fella we were using" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 “The global peace movement” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I wonder what the magic number of signatures would be that would cause Russia to stop and move back to the border? Never bring a biro to a gun fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I wonder what the magic number of signatures would be that would cause Russia to stop and move back to the border? Never bring a biro to a gun fight. Unverified sources say Putin has already prepared his forces for a lengthy petition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I wonder what the magic number of signatures would be that would cause Russia to stop and move back to the border? Never bring a biro to a gun fight. Are you saying that me organising a Thursday night clap isn't going to work? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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