Tayls Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, bickster said: Nowt to do with Wiki Nice is actually my favourite foreign holiday destination, I've been at least 6 times now Right, no more Mr Nice Guy, can we bring this back on topic please, I’d hate to start issuing warnings… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Ukraine on Fire on Rumble is very interesting but definitely NWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Follyfoot Posted March 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It’s not the one from the episode where Ike was being fiddled with by his hot female teacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sne Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Quote Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian Peace Negotiators Suffer Symptoms of Suspected Poisoning The Russian oligarch and others developed symptoms they blamed on hard-liners in Moscow who they say want to sabotage talks to end the war Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning after a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month, people familiar with the matter said. Following the meeting in the Ukrainian capital, Mr. Abramovich, who has shuttled between Moscow, Lviv and other negotiating venues, as well as at least two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that included red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their faces and hands, the people said. https://www.wsj.com/articles/roman-abramovich-and-ukrainian-peace-negotiators-suffer-symptoms-of-suspected-poisoning-11648480493 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Brumerican said: Then things would get Perthonal. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Makes you wonder why, do they think there’s a credible assassination attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Makes you wonder why, do they think there’s a credible assassination attempt? Either that or he’s going to strike first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 You'd have to imagine there is a high level of paranoia among Putin and his pals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Makes you wonder why, do they think there’s a credible assassination attempt? Coup-proofing probably by isolating away from the military, but it’s also very interesting. If he is literally in the bunker then highly curated information from a relatively small number of sources may be giving Putin an unclear picture of how things are really going. What analysts thought was the Russian special duties squadron doing nuclear dispersal practice as signaling to the West, might actually have been Putin relocating to the bunker because he felt personally unsafe in Moscow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Either that or he’s going to strike first Dude reeks of Cobra Kai. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Edit. Too slow. Beaten to the punch. Edited March 28, 2022 by AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, AJ said: Edit. Too slow. Beaten to the punch. Classic Miyagi Do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 FT report on 'ongoing ceasefire negotiations, according to four people briefed on the discussions'. Article is here: https://www.ft.com/content/7f14efe8-2f4c-47a2-aa6b-9a755a39b626 . . . but since the FT is a pain to excerpt, a summary rundown of the state of play, according to the article: There is a draft ceasefire document. It does not contain mention of any of Russia's 3 initial demands (demilitarisation, 'denazification', Russian language protections) The possible deal would involve Ukraine abandoning its NATO membership ambition in exchange for security guarantees and the prospect of joining the EU Ukraine would also commit to not developing nuclear weapons or hosting foreign military bases Ukraine is skeptical about the agreement, believing it may be a pretext/smokescreen for re-armament The countries providing the security guarantee would be Russia, the US, the UK, Canada, France, Germany, China, Italy, Poland, Israel and Turkey This would need to be ratified by these countries' legislatures, but none have refused (to put it to legislatures) so far Ukraine would hold a referendum to change its constitution (remove the pursuit of NATO membership) Territorial questions have been parked, and would be addressed by future discussions between Putin and Zelenskyy, though this is an impasse as Russia wants recognition that Crimea is part of Russia and independence for Donetsk and Luhansk; Ukraine will not concede any of these Ukraine may commit to restoring Crimea's water supply (they cut it off after 2014) and to never trying to retake the peninsula by force These last points suggest a possible Kosovo-type solution where these incompatible territorial claims are never settled, legally, but where both sides have an agreement (however formal or informal) not to fight over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Putin not in full possession of ground-truth in Ukraine if he sees no possibility of Russian failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 28, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Ukraine may commit to restoring Crimea's water supply Wasn't the dam on the canal blown up on about day 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Wasn't the dam on the canal blown up on about day 2? I thought I'd read that too, but maybe that wasn't all that's needed to get a stable supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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