Anthony Posted March 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Next thing you know they'll be sitting miles apart from each other at a stupidly large table, with Putin shouting at them whilst they visible tremble. Now you're just being ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2022 Not sure if this has been seen here yet. Obviously its a very wild claim but there is some corroboration with deaths of senior officers and NCOs being confirmed in their local Russian newspaer including the commander of the unit (Colonel) and the deputy commander (captain) The regiment is considered to be one of Russia's elite units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just came across a twitter account with tonnes of videos showing what the apparent ukrainian azov neo nazi’s have been doing. Check out this thread, Make up your own mind. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, bickster said: Not sure if this has been seen here yet. Obviously its a very wild claim but there is some corroboration with deaths of senior officers and NCOs being confirmed in their local Russian newspaer including the commander of the unit (Colonel) and the deputy commander (captain) The regiment is considered to be one of Russia's elite units Rumour is that this was the proverbial ‘tip of the spear’ trying to take Hostomel on day one, where the Ukrainians took down several helos and unleashed artillery right in the landing zone. I don’t think anyone got out tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Just came across a twitter account with tonnes of videos showing what the apparent ukrainian azov neo nazi’s have been doing. Check out this thread, Make up your own mind. Hide contents Some of this is chilling, some of it is from the first days of the war when Ukraine stopped several Russian saboteurs, some of it has clear Russian posters in the back and in some cases it looks fake. It’s probably a merry mix of Russian propaganda, neo nazis and saboteurs being apprehended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2022 There's also this one Quote Russian Black Sea Fleet commander 'shot dead by Ukrainians' in battle for Mariupol Andrey Paliy is the sixth top military figure to die during the invasion Torygraph Second in command of the entire Black Sea Fleet. Shot leading troops into battle around Mariupol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Just came across a twitter account with tonnes of videos showing what the apparent ukrainian azov neo nazi’s have been doing. Check out this thread, Make up your own mind. Hide contents Interesting account “Juan” of Glasgow is running there. Every post is attacking either the Zelensky Government, the Ukrainian military or Ukrainian society. Meanwhile, Russia shells Mariupol with thermobaric rocket artillery. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2022 This hasn't exactly been punlicised at all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted March 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, bickster said: This hasn't exactly been punlicised at all That's sure to keep the resistance on track and make sure the Russian efforts go off the rails and hit the buffers. They're probably sleeper agents. Happy now? Edited March 20, 2022 by ml1dch 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, ml1dch said: That's sure to keep the resistance on track and make sure the Russian efforts go off the rails and hit the buffers. They're probably sleeper agents. Happy now? I'm not going to steam into this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 If people still think Zelensky was unclear: Every hour Russia bombs civilians, loses troops and exhausts its arsenal Ukraine gets one step closer to winning this war. Also Russia has 190-something nations that were once repressed by the state. It’s only a matter of time before these groups get tired of losing their young in a war for nothing. My guess is Chechnya once enough Kadyrovites die in Ukraine, then Dagestan, Karelia, various Muslim areas and the pro western areas of Moscow and St. Petersburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sidcow Posted March 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2022 I've been keeping an eye on that Ukraine Weapons Tracker twitter page and what amazes me is the amount of Russian kit the Ukrainian army (and farmers) are capturing that are in pristine condition. This suggests to me that the Russians are having a lot of trouble with desertions. They seem to be just leaving their kit and doing a runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: I reckon a “go **** yourself” is on the horizon in response to the question… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: QTWTAIN Why wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Awol Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: On a purely practical level Mariupol is tying up a lot of Russian manpower, logistics and effort, so its fall will allow those resources to be redeployed for other operations - obviously bad news for the wider Ukrainian resistance. As worrying is the imminent entry of the Belarusian armed forces to open a new front in the North West. I don’t think Biden has the stomach for it but those units could be rendered combat ineffective pretty quickly by western forces, at very little direct risk to themselves (using unnamed systems) and without killing Russians. We could even just lie as Moscow does and say that they’re Ukrainian drones, or that the Russians are attacking Belarusian forces. It’s an escalation on our part in response to Russia’s widening of the war, but I’m worried that total western inaction will stretch Ukrainian forces beyond endurance and signal to Putin he has a totally free hand. Russia is struggling as it is, I don’t think Putin’s generals have the capability to seriously threaten NATO conventionally right now, even if he wanted to. Russia is clearly going to massacre Mariupol, it’s time to impose some real but calibrated costs for that behaviour. Knocking the guts out of whatever Belarus sends and fermenting a revolution in Minsk will give Putin something to think about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2022 What's tragic is the reports of Russia literally people trafficking people from Mariupol back to Russia and God knows where from there. Sinister in the extreme. We're going to bomb your home to non existence, kill most of your family and friends and then steal you away to an unknown future with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2022 Not sure why they're bombing Mariupol to the stone age considering the people living there are apparently Russians who needed to be saved by Ukranian Nazis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 People speculating about Russia using tactical nukes. If they did...how do we respond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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