MakemineVanilla Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Russell Brand attacking, Democrats, Banks and the Tories, with quotes from the Guardian: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, MakemineVanilla said: Russell Brand attacking, Democrats, Banks and the Tories, with quotes from the Guardian: And he is right to....Whilst he may not be everyone's cup of tea he talks facts. The West have been pumping money into Ukraine for years to the tune of over 5 billion to gain influence politically. My issue with him is timing.....It's all wrong. Wait until the Russians have been pushed out of Ukraine and civilians are able to safely pick the pieces of their lives up and try to rebuild. Then ask the questions, lay down the facts, open everyone's eyes to the bullshit that has gone on. Doing it whilst people are still being killed and the Country is still occupied is not only foolish but irresponsible. Adding fuel to the Russian excuse to invade Ukraine on the basis the West are also culpable is not going to bring this to an end. Certain Americans are also doing this and getting prime time on Russian State TV. Stupid clearings in the woods. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 19, 2022 15 hours ago, Awol said: They are fighting and dying for the right to make that choice for themselves and deserve every support we can give them, unless or until they choose a different course. FWIW I find their collective courage utterly humbling. Puts our little island of bog-roll hoarding xenophobes to shame, doesn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Galloway back on the offensive - honestly, he needs interning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I suspect we will see a nuking of somewhere in Putins final hours. When he realises it’s the end (whether through age or circumstance) he’ll consider it a final **** you to the world and he won’t give a **** about the return fire as he doesn’t care about Russian people and he’s on the way out anyway so **** it. It’s all about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Puts our little island of bog-roll hoarding xenophobes to shame, doesn't it? Most of our country would be moaning the military kit is to masculine and hasn't moved with the times. So why Britain is getting flattened our defence would probably be put on hold, while they approve a more binary design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: I suspect we will see a nuking of somewhere in Putins final hours. When he realises it’s the end (whether through age or circumstance) he’ll consider it a final **** you to the world and he won’t give a **** about the return fire as he doesn’t care about Russian people and he’s on the way out anyway so **** it. It’s all about him. I'm about 95% sure nukes are off the table. Now chemical weapons, I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Puts our little island of bog-roll hoarding xenophobes to shame, doesn't it? I mean, where am I supposed to go with that? You hate the UK? You hate the British people? If that’s true then I guess leaving was the right choice and I’m happy for you, not sure how much it has to do with Russia/Ukraine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Most of our country would be moaning the military kit is to masculine and hasn't moved with the times. So why Britain is getting flattened our defence would probably be put on hold, while they approve a more binary design Really? 16 minutes ago, Awol said: I mean, where am I supposed to go with that? You hate the UK? You hate the British people? If that’s true then I guess leaving was the right choice and I’m happy for you, not sure how much it has to do with Russia/Ukraine though. I feel like this is sarcasm, but it might be so good I can't tell. If it ISN'T sarcasm, then you've got me wrong. PS - I've been back in the UK for 6 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Does everyone remember when the right wingers in the US were getting bent out of shape last year because the Russian military recruitment ad was so tough and masculine and the US ad was too ‘woke’? I think we now know who would actually win on the battle field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Does everyone remember when the right wingers in the US were getting bent out of shape last year because the Russian military recruitment ad was so tough and masculine and the US ad was too ‘woke’? I think we now know who would actually win on the battle field. The woke crew don't go to war though, do they 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: The woke crew don't go to war though, do they If they can operate the controls on a reaper drone I think they would comfortably have the measure of any of the guys in that Russian ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post blandy Posted March 19, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: The woke crew don't go to war though, do they See, this here’s part of the problem. Here we have a brutal tyrant commanding war and destruction on a huge scale in a neighbouring democracy, completely against international law and norms. Yet somehow ( and I acknowledge there’s an element of truth in your comment and the video contrast) the thing to rail against is “the woke crew”. It’s not you I’m critical of here, it’s this notion that there even is a “woke crew” and the further notion that people who believe in tolerance and equality and respect don’t or can’t fight for their country. It’s kind of imagining a cultural enemy when there isn’t one. Yes there are a lot of seemingly spoilt, not fully developed, twitterers and facebookers who virtue signal from shallow lives, but mostly it’s just people wanting to find a place to belong. The problems of the world are more Putin and less the “woke” as annoying as they sometimes can seem. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Most of our country would be moaning the military kit is to masculine and hasn't moved with the times. So why Britain is getting flattened our defence would probably be put on hold, while they approve a more binary design There are definitely people who do well from convincing you this is how most of the country feels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2022 Transcript of an interview with a Russian general. "We have discussed at the assembly why Putin is triggering the last resort and arrived at the only plausible conclusion: Russia is going through a systemic crises that the leadership cannot put a check on. In every sphere of economy - healthcare, culture, education, etc - everywhere is degradation and collapse." Quora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Puts our little island of bog-roll hoarding xenophobes to shame, doesn't it? It’s when push comes to shove that people show their true resilience. We’re in the very lucky position that we are not being shoved. So for every bog roll hoarder that bleats on about their obsession with other people’s genitals, there are people donating spare rooms to refugees or making sure the food bank is stocked. Anyway, we’re on a learning curve and the people are seeing what’s happening with the farmers in Ukraine and taking inspiration. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: It’s when push comes to shove that people show their true resilience. We’re in the very lucky position that we are not being shoved. So for every bog roll hoarder that bleats on about their obsession with other people’s genitals, there are people donating spare rooms to refugees or making sure the food bank is stocked. Anyway, we’re on a learning curve and the people are seeing what’s happening with the farmers in Ukraine and taking inspiration. Scouse pensioner in Liverpool-on-Sea I imagine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 My line manager at work is taking in 5 people from Ukraine I just found out. 3 under 16's and 2 women. (Spare holiday house in the garden she usually rents out). She has 3 kids under 5 herself so fair play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: My line manager at work is taking in 5 people from Ukraine I just found out. 3 under 16's and 2 women. (Spare holiday house in the garden she usually rents out). She has 3 kids under 5 herself so fair play. A guy from my wife’s office drove a bus from Stockholm to Warsaw, picked up 20 Ukrainian women and children and drove them back up to friends and colleagues houses in Sweden 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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