chrisp65 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 8 hours ago, avfc1982am said: That's quite staggering. Would also be interesting to know how they're holding POW's. Whether these are in a normal Ukraine prison or held elsewhere were there is no chance of them breaking out or being freed. I mean, they must have as many prisoners as those they've killed. I know they emptied their prisons so they're probably kept in these facilities but a huge risk if your under siege across the Country. Tents on the roofs of Maternity Hospitals would be one place they could keep them. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trekka Posted March 13, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2022 11 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted March 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2022 Another mayor abducted . Russian forces have abducted the mayor of the southern city of Dniprorudne, Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba says. Yevhen Matveyev would be the second Ukrainian mayor allegedly abducted by advancing Russian troops in the past three days, after the mayor of nearby Melitopol was reportedly detained on Friday. BBC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Mic drop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, KentVillan said: Mic drop Not just academics, shills and charlatans too Farage, Banks, Galloway, Milne, there's a whole bunch of them on the left and the right that don't even have the right to be called academics or intellectuals. Putin Shills the lot of them and all the people directly connected with them that enabled them. Tory donors doesn't even scratch the surface of the problem. Farage is still being given a platform by (K)GB News, Galloway is still spouting absolute nonsense, Seumas Milne does at least seem to have disappeared up his own arse but they are still out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, trekka said: If you are bored then read the comments where some people argue it’s photoshopped and then someone even created their own experiment at home gotta love the internet at times 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted March 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: someone even created their own experiment at home Using lego no less 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Genie said: Zelensky said that 500-600 Russian soldiers surrendered yesterday (Friday). Pretty incredible if true. I think (not sure) it is related to this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 What’s the BTG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted March 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: What’s the BTG? Battalion Tactical Group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: What’s the BTG? Battalion tactical group (I think ) edit and so does Trekka Edited March 13, 2022 by tonyh29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 For those wanting to get a gist of the numbers per unit in the Russian forces.... Russian Army Units (globalsecurity.org) Squad - 9-14 troops , Platoon 9-45, Company 130 - 150, Battalion 250 - 950, Regiment 900 - 2000, Brigade 2000 - 8000, Division 8000 - 24000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted March 13, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2022 14 hours ago, magnkarl said: Poland has also delivered a very powerful anti-air system called MANPAD (yeah I know, sounds like a diaper) recently, should take down helicopters and older airplanes en masse. Manpads, to my knowledge, is a term for a category of weapon. They are man-portable air defence systems - basically shoulder carried and launched guided anti-aircraft missiles. Stingers are manpads, for example. I guess whatever the Polish system is actually called, it’s probably easier to pronounce the generic “Manpads” than the polish word, for the non-polish speaker. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 A sad but not unexpected development. Brave man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, blandy said: Manpads, to my knowledge, is a term for a category of weapon. They are man-portable air defence systems - basically shoulder carried and launched guided anti-aircraft missiles. Stingers are manpads, for example. I guess whatever the Polish system is actually called, it’s probably easier to pronounce the generic “Manpads” than the polish word, for the non-polish speaker. It's not even that it's not pronounceable Quote Shoulder-Launched Thunderbolts The Grom (“Thunder”) is a heat-seeking man portable air defense system (MANPADS) based on the Soviet second-generation 9K38 Igla-missile (SA-18 Grouse) developed shortly after Poland’s exit from the Warsaw Pact in the 1990s. While first-generation MANPADS like the SA-7 and Redeye could only engage aircraft from specific angles and were easily decoyed by flares, the second-generation Igla and U.S. Stinger remained effective against faster jets approaching even head-on, and could better distinguish flare decoys from an aircraft’s heat signature. Polish firms were denied a license to produce Iglas, so Polish spies acquired floppy disks full of design data that informed the Polish Igla spinoff, which debuted in Polish military service in 1995. 90s-era Grom launchers still relied on components imported from Russia, but Grom-2s produced after 2004 use entirely indigenous components. Defense Minister Mariusz B tweeted Tuesday that Ukraine would receive the latest Grom-M model, the Pioroun (“Thunderbolt”) built by Mesko. This features a new rocket motor and more sensitive seeker enabling increased engagement range and ceiling, enhanced discrimination of decoys, night-firing capability using an additional thermal sight, and a new, heavier 4-pound proximity-fused warhead. A single person peering through a cooled infrared sight operates the bazooka-like weapon, which weighs 36 pounds loaded. At launch, a 72-millimeter diameter heat-seeking missile accelerates to nearly twice the speed of sound (Mach 1.9), and can intercept aircraft approaching at low supersonic speeds (Mach 1.16, or 400 meter/second) out to a range of 4 miles (6.5 kilometers) and a maximum altitude of 13,000 feet. It can also tag aircraft flying away at up 320 meters/second. 19fortyfive.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: It's not even that it's not pronounceable 19fortyfive.com The point was that getting their hands on this relatively new equipment, rather than first generation stingers is huge. It can take down most (if not all) Russian attack aircraft. It'll make West Ukraine an unpleasant place for planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2022 Pioroun/Manpads, Tomato/Tomato 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 @bicksterlooks like confirmation that NATO people have been training and assisting Ukrainians just inside the Ukraine border, hence the unexpected Russian missile attack in the west 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I do realise that Ukrain is not a NATO country and I realise why NATO cant just butt in to someone elses war but there are acouple of things that I dont understand,maybe somone can explain to me the following. 1 - IMHO the west will have to fight Russia,the only question is,now or later. 2 - IMHO the west is letting Putin call all the shots,eg " A no -fly zone is an act of war " (so atacking Ukrain is not ?! ) 3- Why does not the west take a stronger stand against that dipstick ?eg assination,more and better weapons,the latest planes. 4 - IMHO surley the west could see that the Russians are really poor fighters,I mean they still have not taken Kiev and this is supposed to be "The Russian army" fighting a bunch of unprepared,smaller army,and civilians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, KentVillan said: @bicksterlooks like confirmation that NATO people have been training and assisting Ukrainians just inside the Ukraine border, hence the unexpected Russian missile attack in the west Yes I saw that but there was no confirmation that it was currently happening that I could see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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