TheAuthority Posted February 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hippo said: Those tanks were built by Citroen though ! Nicole? Edited February 26, 2022 by TheAuthority Dammit that was Renault lol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, hippo said: Those tanks were built by Citroen though ! Ahh, I expect their pneumatic suspension broke down then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_a Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: Nicole? Lol I was about to say Renault when I saw your edit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted February 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, sidcow said: It looks like the Javelin tank missile is American. Uk had a ground to air missile called Javelin which is now obsolete The UK has sent several thousand NLAWs which are shorter range than the Javelin - perfect for the urban environment. Hoping to see much of this coming out of European NATO though. Stingers and Javelins are the tools they need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Putin won’t manage to hide the casualty numbers for long, then public opinion will really kick in. They can’t arrest everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Davkaus said: They should be fast-tracked into NATO as quickly as possible if they want to join Yes, but such a move would ostensibly trigger said military action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, maqroll said: Yes, but such a move would ostensibly trigger said military action. Putin says it would, I somehow think the reality is a little different. The Finns are highly trained, well funded and big in numbers, including well practised reservists, their wartime strength is some 280.000. Even their border guards become a home defence force in war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I'm cautious about sharing twitter threads like this as there's a lot of disinformation and opinion swirling around, but this would be encouraging if true as it suggests Putin has severely overestimated how easy this would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, bickster said: Putin says it would, I somehow think the reality is a little different. The Finns are highly trained, well funded and big in numbers, including well practised reservists, their wartime strength is some 280.000. Even their border guards become a home defence force in war Finland is the most well trained defensive army in Europe. They even did a YouTube video on how they’d beat Russia.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Assuming that Turkey is actually going to do this, it's quite a big deal: it was demanded earlier by Ukraine but resisted by NATO members on the fear that closing the Bosphorus would be seen as a declaration of war on Russia. Sorry to quote myself here, but I don't think Turkey is doing this; Zelenskyy's tweet seems to be thanking Erdogan for closing the strait to Russian ships but I think it's actually a request, which will be refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Sorry to quote myself here, but I don't think Turkey is doing this; Zelenskyy's tweet seems to be thanking Erdogan for closing the strait to Russian ships but I think it's actually a request, which will be refused. Yes it will be refused, because it would be taken (fairly) as a declaration of war on Russia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 26, 2022 Interesting idea forwarded by Latvian Defence Minister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, bickster said: Interesting idea forwarded by Latvian Defence Minister Meanwhile back home their families get sent to the gulags. Nice idea but completely impractical in reality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, bickster said: Interesting idea forwarded by Latvian Defence Minister Probably marginally a better idea than that woman that did a poem about being Putin’s mum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tonyh29 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Journalist reporting from Russia saying Russian state media aren’t showing any reporting on the conflict , no mention of casualties etc His feeling from discussions with sources , is that Putin has miscalculated but unlikely to back down or withdraw , said the hope is that Putin is taken out from inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 26, 2022 5 hours ago, magnkarl said: Also Boeing and airbus have likely turned off their software in Russian planes right now as per the sanctions. That’s really really not credible. It is true that some (extremely niche) military hardware is built with anti tamper mechanisms embedded within it, but that kind of kit won’t be anywhere near in possession or use by any Russian entity. Airbus and Boeing airliners and cargo planes will not have that sort of kit installed. Secondly the notion of remotely “turning off” software in aircraft is also highly fanciful in this case. Again while there are niche techniques for proximate actors to interfere with aircraft systems electro-magnetically, there is not, as far as I am aware any method to remotely disable (say) a mission computer, flight control computer, fuel system computer or etc. These units are stand alone LRIs, they are not connected to the internet or off-board networks. Lastly, remotely disabling safety critical systems could kill people, innocent people. The aircraft could be airborne, it could crash on whoever. oh, and I’m entirely unsure Russia has any Boeing or Airbus aircraft anyway. There’s no way on earth US ITAR and EAR would allow it for Boeing, and the UK and Europe also have strict export control regulations (law) around Dual use and military tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, blandy said: That’s really really not credible. It is true that some (extremely niche) military hardware is built with anti tamper mechanisms embedded within it, but that kind of kit won’t be anywhere near in possession or use by any Russian entity. Airbus and Boeing airliners and cargo planes will not have that sort of kit installed. Secondly the notion of remotely “turning off” software in aircraft is also highly fanciful in this case. Again while there are niche techniques for proximate actors to interfere with aircraft systems electro-magnetically, there is not, as far as I am aware any method to remotely disable (say) a mission computer, flight control computer, fuel system computer or etc. These units are stand alone LRIs, they are not connected to the internet or off-board networks. Lastly, remotely disabling safety critical systems could kill people, innocent people. The aircraft could be airborne, it could crash on whoever. oh, and I’m entirely unsure Russia has any Boeing or Airbus aircraft anyway. There’s no way on earth US ITAR and EAR would allow it for Boeing, and the UK and Europe also have strict export control regulations (law) around Dual use and military tech. They may have turned the telemetry off, so as not to monitor there systems, but I doubt it would benefit anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: They may have turned the telemetry off, so as not to monitor there systems, but I doubt it would benefit anyone. You can't help yourself. you're arguing with someone who literally does this shit for a job 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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