thabucks Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, Junxs said: I'm seeing this a lot, people often forget or don't realise that each season in the championship the parachute payments get significantly less. Getting rid of those 3 probably doesn't even cover the reduction in parachute payments from last season. If we don't go up this season then next season will be even less. Season after that if we are still in the championship then we probably wont even be able to pay any players over £25k/w. Which is why it's so important that we get out of this division ASAP Burying my head in the sand c'mon let me dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 2 hours ago, alreadyexists said: Just checked and he is that berk. Also, can't imagine we need another CB with terry. Unless George Graham is about to make a spectacular managerial comeback to the club which started his career. That's one for the young folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 41 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: I can't say I've ever really noticed Ledley perform so I'm not blown away with the suggestion. I said it last year, but for me I only see Jedinak as a squad player at best. Yes individually he played well, and we got results with him there, but for me we actually played better stuff without him there. I'd really like an energetic holding midfielder to come in. This would allow Lansbury and Hourihane to play more advanced (please don't start criticising Bruce here it's not the thread). How about Bacuna playing the energetic midfielder role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Ledley is the definition of bang average. If we get promoted he's another name that will need to be shipped out because he's not prem quality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth10 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Ledley is the definition of bang average. If we get promoted he's another name that will need to be shipped out because he's not prem quality That's the whole point though, neither are we...Ledley is one of those in between players, too good for champ, found out in prem....worry about that division when we get back though, imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, thabucks said: Long shots but Nathaniel Chalobah & Rueben Loftus-Cheek are now further away from the Chel$ki 1st team with the signing of Bakayoko. Loftus-Cheek is obviously above us but surely we could show the ambition and bid for Chalobah ? The sort of players John Terry might have a word in their ear about joining us if only for a season on loan but with a view to buy perhaps when we go up? Edited June 26, 2017 by John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KSV Posted June 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2017 I don't know why people are so apposed to loans. Look at Huddersfield. Promoted on the back of a few loans. In the premier signed them permanently. We should do the same. Loan Loftus Cheek. If we get promoted. Sign hin. On the big fee. If not then we're promoted we go get someone else. We can't afford to gamble 15 million to try get them now. I don't want to block our youngsters. However we don't seem to have any central midfielders coming through right . Green and RHM could be few coming through but they are attackers. I would prefer getting Loftus Cheek on loan and pay a few million than signing Whelan for they much money on a two year deal only wanting rid of him next year. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, thabucks said: If we sold Gil, Vertout & Gardener that's the potential fees for Loftus-Cheek/Chalobah covered. But realistically though can't see loftus-cheek's ego dropping down to play for Bruce. Chalobah is a better shout than Whealan imo age is on his side to improve and complements Jedinak. Maybe JT could put in a good word for loftus- cheek . We do need to use the loan market to our benefit this year - last year we only had one player on part season loan . Edited June 27, 2017 by Eastie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 10 hours ago, AshVilla said: Ledley is the definition of bang average. If we get promoted he's another name that will need to be shipped out because he's not prem quality Ledley is average prem quality. We can't sign high prem quality at the moment as we are sat in the Championship. We need to be realistic with our signings and not keep thinking of ourselves as above everyone in this league, as we found out last season we aren't... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 13 hours ago, villan-scott said: Went up with Huddersfield. Couldn't possibly comment on him as I never paid any attention whatsoever to him or Huddersfield!! Hefele... I wasted a lot of time watching the play off games with Huddersfield trying to pronounce his name correctly. All I could think of was 'Heffalump' over and over. The games totally passed me by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Terry having a word in the ear of some of Chelsea's starlets is making the fairly big assumption that they would want to be a team mate of his once again.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 minute ago, El-Reacho said: Terry having a word in the ear of some of Chelsea's starlets is making the fairly big assumption that they would want to be a team mate of his once again.... True. Plus he has probably barely met most of them as they're always out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I've actually heard/read a fair bit about Terry and one thing that is mentioned a lot is how good he is with the youth players at Chelsea and in keeping in contact with the players out on loan. I think it's a fair assumption that with him at Villa we would have a better chance of loaning some of Chelsea's decent youth prospects. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: Terry having a word in the ear of some of Chelsea's starlets is making the fairly big assumption that they would want to be a team mate of his once again.... It's also a fairly big assumption to say they wouldn't. Given all the work he does with the Chelsea youth. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Raver50032 said: Hefele... I wasted a lot of time watching the play off games with Huddersfield trying to pronounce his name correctly. All I could think of was 'Heffalump' over and over. The games totally passed me by. And so ends his Villa career before it started. See also 'Yowsless' De La Cruz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) There are 3 approaches I see for loans/signings 1 - the 1 year deals to get us up -> rethink once we're PL. 2 - the 2/3 year deals with players capable of performing in PL once we're there 3 - the chancer deals that mean if we miss out on promotion they will help consolidate us as a midtable CH club till DrT sells up Edited June 27, 2017 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 forgot approach nr4 4 - over the hill players costing a fortune because we are AVFC so our board never learns and our reputation of "last big payday for fading flops" is reiterated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Grasshopper said: forgot approach nr4 4 - over the hill players costing a fortune because we are AVFC so our board never learns and our reputation of "last big payday for fading flops" is reiterated When has this board payed a fortune for over the hill players? Jedinak is older but was a rock for many games last year... um... not sure who else this board has signed that fall near that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: When has this board payed a fortune for over the hill players? Jedinak is older but was a rock for many games last year... um... not sure who else this board has signed that fall near that category. The board - is those who have occupied positions at AVFC over the demise of our club. whoever they are/have been we have a history of the likes of Heskey to N'Zog Richards through Lescott and now possibly Terry/Whelan or any other past it who's legs are like Richardsons When outsiders look at our club and see similar mistakes from our "new" board to our "old" board, we'll still be deemed as "The last big payday" club. This is the mentality that got us here in the first place and if it continues, will keep us here. I could also include SB as having his last big payday, but I'm not allowed to say that am I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Grasshopper said: There are 3 approaches I see for loans/signings 1 - the 1 year deals to get us up -> rethink once we're PL. 2 - the 2/3 year deals with players capable of performing in PL once we're there 3 - the chancer deals that mean if we miss out on promotion they will help consolidate us as a midtable CH club till DrT sells up Grasshopper is weakening !!!! I claim my £5.. Item 3 says "IF we miss out on promotion" Ha ! GH - Bruces period of inactivity has thawed your icy heart ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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