Popular Post LakotaDakota Posted May 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: Derby - can beat anyone on their day, arguably the in form team. No idea why people keep saying derby are the form team, they are shit. 14 points from the last 10 games, Their final 6 games they won 2, lost 3 & drew against us giving them 7 points from 6 games. The 2 wins were against bolton & barnsley. Even though we have been pretty much useless since beating wolves we are above derby in every form table since then. Like it or not Middlesbrough & Fulham are by far the most in form teams. Last 10 games Fulham - W7 D2 L1 PTS 23 Boro - W5 D3 L2 PTS 18 Us - W5 D2 L3 PTS 17 Derby - W4 D2 L4 PTS 14 Last 6 games Fulham - W4 D1 L1 PTS 13 Boro - W4 D1 L1 PTS 13 Us - W3 D1 L2 PTS 10 Derby - W2 D1 L3 PTS 7 Edited May 7, 2018 by LakotaDakota 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: What if Middlesbrough play like they did against Norwich, and Fulham play like they did against birmingham, and Derby play like they did against Burton? Then you get my point ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: No idea why people keep saying derby are the form team, they are shit. 14 points from the last 10 games, Their final 6 games they won 2, lost 3 & drew against us giving them 7 points from 6 games. The 2 wins were against bolton & barnsley. Even though we have been pretty much useless since beating wolves we are above derby in every form table since then. Like it or not Middlesbrough & Fulham are by far the most in form teams. Last 10 games Fulham - W7 D2 L1 PTS 23 Boro - W5 D3 L2 PTS 18 Us - W5 D2 L3 PTS 17 Derby - W4 D2 L4 PTS 14 Last 6 games Fulham - W4 D1 L1 PTS 13 Boro - W4 D1 L1 PTS 13 Us - W3 D1 L2 PTS 10 Derby - W2 D1 L3 PTS 7 Well you can spin it the way you want it. Our last few games include beating the 2nd best team in the league at home (Cardiff), hammering Ispwich 4-0 when we needed the goals, and totally outplaying Derby at Home. Yesterday game meant nothing and we lost. If Fulham won yesterday, they would have got promoted. And they blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) Not spinning anything, Multiple people are saying that Derby are the form team heading into the play-offs, They are not. It really is that simple I honestly have no idea how they are even in the play-offs. The have only won 6 games out of the 21 games they have played since Jan 1st, Those wins were against Birmingham, Brentford, Cardiff, Preston, Bolton & Barnsley. Hell Birmingham have actually won 2 more games than Derby in 2018, would anyone describe them as a form team? This is the tabe for games played in 2018 Edited May 7, 2018 by LakotaDakota 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: No. That is a fact. No its not. We could play as badly as we did in those games and get a freak smash'n'grab or the opposition could play even WORSE. It's a likely hood that we would lose agreed, but not a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2018 If we end up facing Derby in the final I'll be over the moon. We were miles better than at VP last week 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 hours ago, brommy said: That's the spirit. His right though if we do play like those games we won't have a chance. I don't think we will but if we did i woukd serious question the players as no excuses for putting in such a shower of shit performance liek those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: His right though if we do play like those games we won't have a chance. I don't think we will but if we did i woukd serious question the players as no excuses for putting in such a shower of shit performance liek those It's such a weird thing to say though. If we play shit then we will lose. Great. If we play well we will win. So probably the best approach is to play well. "Hi, Steve...? You know that team talk you've been looking for-" Edited May 7, 2018 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) Steve Bruce vs Tony Pulis - Head to Head 06/07 - Championship Stoke 0 - 0 Birmingham Birmingham 0 - 1 Stoke 08/09 - Premier League Wigan 0 - 0 Stoke Stoke 2 - 0 Wigan 09/10 - Premier League Stoke 1 - 0 Sunderland Sunderland 0 - 0 Stoke 10/11 - Premier League Sunderland 0 - 2 Stoke Stoke 3 - 2 Sunderland 11/12 - Premier League Sunderland 0 - 4 Stoke 13/14 - Premier League Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Hull 14/15 - Premier League West Brom 1 - 0 Hull West Brom 3 - 2 Hull (League Cup) 17/18 - Championship Middlesbrough 0 - 1 Aston Villa Edited May 7, 2018 by Michael118 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Time to go on a nice three game winning streak I reckon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2018 That head to head makes for some grim reading TBH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, sidcow said: No its not. We could play as badly as we did in those games and get a freak smash'n'grab or the opposition could play even WORSE. It's a likely hood that we would lose agreed, but not a fact. OK , we'll go with a very strong possibility. Just for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: It's such a weird thing to say though. If we play shit then we will lose. Great. If we play well we will win. So probably the best approach is to play well. "Hi, Steve...? You know that team talk you've been looking for-" Hmmm. Johnny B. Goode is a great tune but I'm not sure if it's the right thing to get the boys whipped up before a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: If we end up facing Derby in the final I'll be over the moon. We were miles better than at VP last week One of most one sided games at Villa Park in many a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: His right though if we do play like those games we won't have a chance. I don't think we will but if we did i woukd serious question the players as no excuses for putting in such a shower of shit performance liek those I just don't see the value or point in posting "if we play like...". It's not incisive to list a few games that we played poor or well in and stating that if we play like that we'll lose or win. It's either blindingly obvious or still has a chance of being wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 We will draw at Boro and beat them by an odd goal at Villa Park. We will then face Derby in the final - Fulham will be mentally shot and bottle it - and we will beat them 3-1. I fancy Grealish, Adomah and Terry to score at Wembley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, villarocker said: We will draw at Boro and beat them by an odd goal at Villa Park. We will then face Derby in the final - Fulham will be mentally shot and bottle it - and we will beat them 3-1. I fancy Grealish, Adomah and Terry to score at Wembley. Sorted then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dounavilla Posted May 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, villarocker said: We will draw at Boro and beat them by an odd goal at Villa Park. We will then face Derby in the final - Fulham will be mentally shot and bottle it - and we will beat them 3-1. I fancy Grealish, Adomah and Terry to score at Wembley. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, romavillan said: That head to head makes for some grim reading TBH It’s also fairly meaningless. The results between Bruce and Pulis over 10 years with different teams in very different contexts aren’t in any sense a guide to what might happen over the next two Saturdays. Arguably the only relevant result is what happened with our current team vs their current team and we won that one. Edited May 7, 2018 by briny_ear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 9 hours ago, jackbauer24 said: All four teams will be feeling confident in their own way and all their will think they're favourites; Fulham - huge unbeaten run, closest to automatics, experience at this stage. Quite a gap to next team. Boro - only been in division a season, expensive squad and original favs for title, slow start like Villa. Derby - can beat anyone on their day, arguably the in form team. I know it's said time and time again, but this stage is about nerve, quality, stamina, luck and desire and I really think any one of the teams could go up. We can be as good and as bad as any other team in the playoffs. I'd say there are favourites but by a smaller degree than is made out - maybe 29% (Fulham), 26% (Villa), 23% (Boro) and 22% (Derby). If we take our bias out of the equation we're right not to be favourites. One thing about these play offs for me is usually you get an out of nowhere team make them. Last season you arguably had two, Reading and especially Huddersifield. Previous years a relegation favourite like Blackpool got into them and won them. This year it would've been any one of Preston, Millwall, Brentford or Bristol City but they all fell just short. This year has largely gone to form. Play offs were minimum target for us and Boro, arguably Fulham aswell and Derby have been in them plenty of times in last 5 years. I'd say the quality of the four teams is probably the highest it's been for many years. Doubt that's good news for us but means there will hopefully be no complaceny from us we might've seen if we did play a PNE at any stage. We certainly will have to earn going up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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