KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: There’s still a few articles going round twitter suggesting we never played to his strengths... LOL. To be fair in the majority of matches he played (which was under Bruce?) we probably didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: To be fair in the majority of matches he played (which was under Bruce?) we probably didn't. Ok. Let’s roll with this for a moment. What were his strengths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Ok. Let’s roll with this for a moment. What were his strengths? Look I don't rate him a whole lot, but I think they were right about that one. Hogan wants it in channels or in the box IMO. He is tenacious and knows where the goal is. Bruceball largely involved hoofball, thus Hogan never looked like he would touch a ball when playing. He obviously isn't a targetman or especially good at hold up play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: No I am saying I am rating them on the same level give or take. Hogan same level as Kodjia? If you are not trolling then you need to see a doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Junxs said: Hogan same level as Kodjia? If you are not trolling then you need to see a doctor No I was referring to Stoke strikers. I don't know what's so hard to understand here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think he’s shit but kind of hope he does well now just to prove you wrong. Erm, ok? That's very strange but each to their own 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Grabban and Kodjia are both better than anybody on Stoke's list; we don't need to compare the quality of 4th and 5th choice strikers because they will almost never play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I can't see him making any real contribution there or getting many games. The only hope is that they get injuries and they have to play him every week. He *might* get a few goals then and people *might* think he's not totally useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) Stoke's top goal scorer last season was Lee Gregory with twelve goals, Vokes, Afoboe, and Diouf only got eleven goals between them. Edited August 8, 2019 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Thought it was pretty obvious considering the context of the reply. It's an embarrassingly shit group of striker. Grabban was alright and wasn't even ours. 2 years ago Kodjia had just scored 19 goals and Hogan had scored 15. It was not such an embarrassing group at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Said was a weight lifted off his shoulders to leave. Good luck to him as seems a good lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 58 minutes ago, Zatman said: Said was a weight lifted off his shoulders to leave. Good luck to him as seems a good lad I just looked up the interview. Maybe I'm reading too much into the quote but it reads like a dig at us tbh: " It is a real weight off my shoulders to have left Aston Villa and to have joined a really good Club, a big Club, in Stoke City - it is a really exciting move for me." https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/2019/august/Hogan-delighted-to-seal-City-switch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Well, yeah. He wants to play. Good attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 hours ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: I just looked up the interview. Maybe I'm reading too much into the quote but it reads like a dig at us tbh: " It is a real weight off my shoulders to have left Aston Villa and to have joined a really good Club, a big Club, in Stoke City - it is a really exciting move for me." https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/2019/august/Hogan-delighted-to-seal-City-switch/ It probably is a relief, he hasn't succeeded here, he isn't liked by the fans and he isn't going to play. He isn't getting paid any less to play for Stoke. I should imagine he got a promotion bonus, so he's getting paid good wages to play at a lower level than he is contracted for. He will now play games which he will enjoy and he has a chance of being successful. He may even be liked by Stoke fans. All is good in the life of Scott Hogan. But another reminder of how important a good recruitment strategy is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Not really a dig. Standard text for any footballer to read after a transfer it seems. Big club, good club, PL club, great fans bla bla bla. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Looks like at Stoke he's replaced Afobe, who has gone on loan to Bristol City. Betwen them those two players have cost their clubs fourty million pound plus, in recent times, yet neither of are wanted by the clubs that paid the money for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2019 A Stokie at work asked me about him today. I couldn't even let him down gently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartc445 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 07:01, KenjiOgiwara said: Look I don't rate him a whole lot, but I think they were right about that one. Hogan wants it in channels or in the box IMO. He is tenacious and knows where the goal is. Bruceball largely involved hoofball, thus Hogan never looked like he would touch a ball when playing. He obviously isn't a targetman or especially good at hold up play. So what's the excuse for Hogan when Smith came in and he was useless and when he went to Sheffield United and was useless. So Bruce's style didn't suit him and neither did Smiths who is the only manager to get him scoring style didn't suit him and Sheffield Uniteds style didn't suit him. So what style actually does suit him. Or was it just that brief spell at Brentford was the anomaly and what we are seeing at Villa and Sheffield United is the true Hogan going by his whole carreer I'd say it's the latter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I know I'm only prolongng things but, really, with our first premier lague match a day away, it is odd to see Hogan topping the trending list. He was never going to feature in our 2019/20 campaign so good luck to him at Stoke and let's start thinking about Wesley Moraes and the rest... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Stuartc445 said: So what's the excuse for Hogan when Smith came in and he was useless and when he went to Sheffield United and was useless. So Bruce's style didn't suit him and neither did Smiths who is the only manager to get him scoring style didn't suit him and Sheffield Uniteds style didn't suit him. So what style actually does suit him. Or was it just that brief spell at Brentford was the anomaly and what we are seeing at Villa and Sheffield United is the true Hogan going by his whole carreer I'd say it's the latter. I am not making excuses for him. I am just saying Bruceball obviously did not do him any favours. Anyone half capable of analyzing football can see that. Horses for courses and Bruce never understood that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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