KenjiOgiwara Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Defensively solid, which honestly surprises me, but just not good enough going forward. Guess it's a case where we need to figure out whether we wanna teach Targett to defend, or Taylor to go forwards. Having a settled defence is important though, so I'd probably keep playing him (even if I don't rate him), and rather get Targett on a sub the next matches. Edited August 23, 2019 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, Chicken Field said: Without checking, I'm pretty sure he played in all our games in our 10 match winning run last season, played in all our play-off games. Yeah and he was our worst player then as well. Cutting our legs off in possession. We can hardly get anything going on that side of the pitch. It's affecting Grealish, El Ghazi, Mings, no one is comfortable giving him the ball. He's doing a job as we've hardly had the ball in two matches and he can sit there and be a stopper. But my word, going forward...in fact, just on the ball in general, he's disastrous. The real worry is if Targett isn't as strong as him defensively, because Taylor's not a good Premier League defender IMO. Targett will add so much going forward, he'll have to be all kinds of trash at the back to be an overall negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Targett will get a game in the cup. If he takes his chance there we might see him in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Did well defensively but that cross.. wow that was bad. I think he keeps his place at the moment as it’s good balance having a bit more defensive one side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Did well defensively but that cross.. wow that was bad. Everyone knew it was coming. Grealish certainly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicken Field said: Without checking, I'm pretty sure he played in all our games in our 10 match winning run last season, played in all our play-off games and has been nothing but consistant so far in the Premier League, wish the fans would get of his back for a while. Another good performance and deserves some praise for helping and playing a part in getting us to where we are at the moment! Thanks Neil Taylor. So you’d be supporting Smith if he’d decided to stick with Steer over Heaton for the first 3 games? Taylor was fine tonight. The only glaring booboo I saw was that shocking cross when Grealish set him up towards the end. But, that doesn’t mean that Targett won’t do better. Elmo was good in the previous game, but Guilbert gave us a difference edge tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Sigh, taylor doesnt put a foot wrong defensively. So far that's pretty much a fact. However gives zero to the player in front, shown again with trez worst game for us. I can see him in for 1 more premier game with gilbert in before he is swapped over. Smith gradually introducing the new full backs. Defending? Great Anything else ? Poor. Yes hes a defender but in our system the importance of over lapping is huge with 1 up front. 4 4 2 I would play taylor, 4 5 1 taylor doesnt even get on the bench, hause over him I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Everyone knew it was coming. Grealish certainly did. He was reluctant to make the pass, maybe Jack was hoping like me that he would shank it and somehow it went into the top corner Edited August 24, 2019 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Really is such a shame. Defensively he's been superb. But it's plain to see that we become so limited going forwards on that whole flank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Rob182 said: So you’d be supporting Smith if he’d decided to stick with Steer over Heaton for the first 3 games? Taylor was fine tonight. The only glaring booboo I saw was that shocking cross when Grealish set him up towards the end. But, that doesn’t mean that Targett won’t do better. Elmo was good in the previous game, but Guilbert gave us a difference edge tonight. Of course! Smith has my support 100%! I think he's a better judge of player than any of us and this shows in how performances and results that he has achieved. Are you saying you've stopped supporting Smith because he is using Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 You can see players pausing to think about passing the ball to him when he's the only one available to cross it cos they know he'll spoon it. Hopefully a matter of time till Target heeds Dean's advice and wins his shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jareth said: You can see players pausing to think about passing the ball to him when he's the only one available to cross it cos they know he'll spoon it. Hopefully a matter of time till Target heeds Dean's advice and wins his shirt. "No angle on except a pass to Taylor, no angle on except a pass to Taylor, no angle on except a pass to Taylor, what to do, what to do what to do." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I know he is playing well, but his attacking deficiencies mean that whoever is ahead of him on that flank will struggle to impact the game. The difference last night that Guilbert made with his more aggressive attacking style than Elmohamady indicates what needs to happen on the left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: I know he is playing well, but his attacking deficiencies mean that whoever is ahead of him on that flank will struggle to impact the game. The difference last night that Guilbert made with his more aggressive attacking style than Elmohamady indicates what needs to happen on the left side. yeah, cant knock Taylor for his defensive shifts. But, we need more than that, as shown with how well Guilbert/Jota played down the right. We need Targett to come in behind Trezeguet to give us a strong left side attacking duo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: I know he is playing well, but his attacking deficiencies mean that whoever is ahead of him on that flank will struggle to impact the game. The difference last night that Guilbert made with his more aggressive attacking style than Elmohamady indicates what needs to happen on the left side. Will be games for Taylor this season when we will have to dig in. Like Spurs game for example Think he is also playing as to not disrupt tge defence too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicken Field said: Of course! Smith has my support 100%! I think he's a better judge of player than any of us and this shows in how performances and results that he has achieved. Are you saying you've stopped supporting Smith because he is using Taylor? Supporting a particular decision of someone’s doesn’t mean you stop supporting them all together. The point I’m making is that, presumably, you’ve supported Smith’s decision to bring in Heaton (a MUCH better keeper than Steer), despite Steer doing nothing to lose his place. People wanting Targett is for the exact same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, Rob182 said: Supporting a particular decision of someone’s doesn’t mean you stop supporting them all together. The point I’m making is that, presumably, you’ve supported Smith’s decision to bring in Heaton (a MUCH better keeper than Steer), despite Steer doing nothing to lose his place. People wanting Targett is for the exact same reason. Heaton is an experienced premier league and international player, Steer was on loan in League 1 one year ago Taylor has played a role in our fantastic rise. Have people here actually seen Targett? what are they judgning him on? Smith is most likely judging them on their on the field performances from the past 6 months and what they do every day in training, I trust and support 100% every decision he makes, as he is in a much better position do be making them Taylor has been nothing less than consistant in our first three matches this season, I just dont understand the scapegoat mentality Villa fans seem to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Offers nothing going forward but once again solid defensively. I will add thou that I'm not a fan of his habit to drop off into the center allowing the winger too much space by playing too narrow. He seem afraid to get beaten by the dribble so rather backs off and allows the cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Grealish should of used him...by not using him. Taylor put in a shift again, he can have a night off on tues but it's his shirt on Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I think it’s fairly nailed on that long term Targett will replace Taylor, once the rest of the squad is more settled in I think we’ll see that transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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