rodders0223 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 11 hours ago, skarroki said: If I'm currently not wanted where I'm working and I'm doing a dream job, I'm due to earn £500,000 that year and I'm offered 1. £125,000 2. help with finding my next company where I will continue to earn money. 3. A chance to make Johan Lange give me a big smile I'm taking that all day long. Why rot in the reserves and make finding your next job harder to find. Basically comes across like he was bitter, going in on the young players to show them how real football works when he'd barely strung 3 professional matches together in the last decade. Ramsey has probably doubled Lansbury's top flight appearances now at least. Any former player that goes on about the clique of Bunn, Hutton, Richards, Agbonlahor et al and what a "good bunch of lads" they were when other former players, staff and managers have alluded to their lack of professionalism, is someone I have reservations on. The fact they'd all gone and Lansbury was still there and we were trying to pay him off to get rid and keeping him away from the dressing room speaks volumes imo. Would you be 'retiring' in a year or two because your body is basically finished? You're not taking that deal lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 11 hours ago, skarroki said: Any former player that goes on about the clique of Bunn, Hutton, Richards, Agbonlahor et al and what a "good bunch of lads" they were when other former players, staff and managers have alluded to their lack of professionalism, is someone I have reservations on. The fact they'd all gone and Lansbury was still there and we were trying to pay him off to get rid and keeping him away from the dressing room speaks volumes imo. To be fair to Hutton, he was frozen out but 3 loan moves later and he came back in, seized the moment and went on to give to the cause when it mattered while cementing cult hero status as the Scottish Cafu in the process. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Huge waste of money in the end. He's entitled to his bitterness but can't say he didn't deserve more. He had chances when fit and didn't deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Huge waste of money in the end. He's entitled to his bitterness but can't say he didn't deserve more. He had chances when fit and didn't deliver. Highlight of his Villa career was a disallowed goal at Palace I always remember him shitting the bed at Newcastle when he just signed becausr he had a run in with Shelvey earlier in the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2023 17 hours ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: He’s right: there’s no loyalty, but there’s also no obligation for the club to treat him any differently, especially when he did naff all for us when he was fit. Less of the boys’ club - the old guard looking out for one another - and more appreciation that it sucks being a grown up, please. I've not watched it but if he's moaning about loyalty it cuts both ways. Players in the main (with one or two very rare exceptions) will drop their club the second a "bigger" club or one offering a few quid more comes sniffing. It's ruthless but it's ruthless in both directions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: Huge waste of money in the end. He's entitled to his bitterness but can't say he didn't deserve more. He had chances when fit and didn't deliver. Ultimately yes. Came with big expectations but rarely looked worth the investment. That's not his fault mind. Only one party makes the offer and agrees the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: Huge waste of money in the end. He's entitled to his bitterness but can't say he didn't deserve more. He had chances when fit and didn't deliver. He didn't come across as bitter to me, he seems to be loving life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 59 minutes ago, sidcow said: Ultimately yes. Came with big expectations but rarely looked worth the investment. That's not his fault mind. Only one party makes the offer and agrees the wages. Very true. Thank god we aren’t giving out 4 and half year contracts like this anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Very true. Thank god we aren’t giving out 4 and half year contracts like this anymore. How long did we give Coutinho? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Zatman said: How long did we give Coutinho? How long have we just given Ollie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, sidcow said: How long have we just given Ollie? Not really a comparison, one is a consistent performer while the other was past it 3 years ago Edited October 10, 2023 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Zatman said: How long did we give Coutinho? Not remotely comparable and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 9 hours ago, The_Steve said: Not remotely comparable and you know it. I dont see any difference just we paid Coutinho more money. Lansbury at least was doing something at Championship level when we signed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 10:53, rodders0223 said: Would you be 'retiring' in a year or two because your body is basically finished? You're not taking that deal lol He wasn't retiring though he was moving on to another club to continue earning money, he's already rich and he's got 2/3 businesses going in the background, one of which he cites as the reason for retiring early, because of how well the business is going and he wants to put more time into it. Footballers don't retire at 31 and then sit at home staring at a wall for 60 years with smashed knees waiting for their money to run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 11:35, AvfcRigo82 said: To be fair to Hutton, he was frozen out but 3 loan moves later and he came back in, seized the moment and went on to give to the cause when it mattered while cementing cult hero status as the Scottish Cafu in the process. I know Hutton is a cult hero and feel bad lumping him in, as I know he was frozen out reportedly due to his wages instead of attitude, but he was frozen out several times and is regularly mentioned in a list of "good lads" alongside a bunch of players at the time it was suggested were leeches on the club and were bad eggs in the dressing room. Ross McCormark even said they weren't bad eggs which I guess he would if he was part of the group. All in all I hold nothing against Hutton, it was more a general point that the players who in retirement talk about that certain group of players tend to be people who disappointed, had high wages, had their commitment / fitness / training / performances questioned regularly. If you're Lansbury and you're talking about how good Gabby and Bunn were instead of, say, Terry, Chester, Hourihane, Kodjia - then Whelan, Snodgrass etc etc during those first 18 months then it rings alarm bells in my head. Fair enough if you disagree with that though I might be reading too much into it and or being unreasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 22:43, Zatman said: Lansbury at least was doing something at Championship level when we signed him Such a Bruce signing though - just like the disaster that was Scott Hogan. Lansbury had a purple patch for about 2 months before we signed him then we resorted to type. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 21:31, Zatman said: How long did we give Coutinho? On 11/10/2023 at 03:22, The_Steve said: Not remotely comparable and you know it. How is it not comparable? On 10/10/2023 at 18:41, The_Steve said: Huge waste of money in the end. He's entitled to his bitterness but can't say he didn't deserve more. He had chances when fit and didn't deliver. You're talking about Coutinho here yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villan95 Posted November 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67297710 Henri Lansbury reveals he overcame testicular cancer when at Nottingham Forest Quote Retired footballer Henri Lansbury says he overcame testicular cancer when he was at Nottingham Forest in 2016. Lansbury joined Forest from Arsenal in 2012 before leaving when he was signed by Aston Villa in 2017. "I was just in the shower after training one day," Lansbury told Sky Sports. "I was having a feel and washing myself, and I felt a lump. It was a little pea-sized lump and, just over time, I thought it would go away." He added: "A couple of months passed and it was still there. We broke up for the summer, about to go on holiday, but it was eating me away for a few months having it and not telling anyone and just trying to deal with it myself. "It got to the point where I thought I had to see someone and someone to help me out. "First of all, I just went down to the local hospital to see if I could get it checked out. They said the lead time is a few weeks, and, going on holiday, I didn't want to go away with it. "So then I had to phone the club and ask for help. They put me in contact with someone to go and get it checked out. I had a scan there, and he said 'all right, we'll give you your results back in a bit'. "As I've left to get in my car, the doctor from Nottingham Forest has called me to say 'can you go and pack a bag, you're going back in for the operation tonight'. I was a bit like 'this is a bit fast' but I was glad to get it out." Lansbury had loan spells at Scunthorpe, Watford, Norwich City and West Ham while at Arsenal before joining Forest. He moved from the City Ground to Villa and then had spells at Bristol City and Luton Town. Lansbury left the Hatters in the summer following their promotion to the Premier League and announced his retirement in August. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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