Indigo Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I think to play McGinn in the deep role loses so much of what makes him effective for us. You're limiting what makes him so influential if you make him the sitting player, he should always be used in that energetic box-to-box role. But the whole discussion on who should play in that position just highlights how badly we need to sign a specialist player for that role. I think Whelan gets some harsh stick sometimes and that he'd be fine for many teams in this league, but he really sticks out like a sore thumb in the midfield of a team that tries to play with Smith's preferred style. He's too slow on the ball and needs 3-4 touches when we need to be moving it quickly, and holds us back when we're supposed to be playing it out from defence by not being nearly proactive enough when looking for possession - you'll often see him marking the opposition's number 10 even when we have the ball. The balance of our midfield looks all over the place but it only really hinges on getting a proper DM to fix it. We then suddenly have good options elsewhere once Jack is fit again where players can play in their proper roles, rather than wondering who would be best to shoehorn into being the sitter. I presume we'll have to bring one in from abroad, as I can't really think of anyone in England we could realistically sign (from the PL/Championship, anyway) that fits the brief of being defensively competent and mobile, while also comfortable on the ball and able to pick it up off the defenders and dictate the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Problem with Lansbury is he'll not play for a while then come on for about 20 minutes and look good. People will want him to start, he starts the next game and looks pretty crap and doesn't play for a while again. Happens every single time. I'm not expecting that to change now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Farlz said: Problem with Lansbury is he'll not play for a while then come on for about 20 minutes and look good. People will want him to start, he starts the next game and looks pretty crap and doesn't play for a while again. Happens every single time. I'm not expecting that to change now. Players are always better when they are not in the team. Then they get a chance to start and people soon see why they weren't in the team in the first place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Hope I'm wrong but to my mind he's a player who delivers 1 in every 4-5 games, always has been this sort of player and always will be. Pointless to have a serious role for him at the club and he's among our very top earners, I'd much rather him being moved on this window than given the chance to play for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Hope I'm wrong but to my mind he's a player who delivers 1 in every 4-5 games, always has been this sort of player and always will be. Pointless to have a serious role for him at the club and he's among our very top earners, I'd much rather him being moved on this window than given the chance to play for us. even worse is I cant remember him actually playing 4 or 5 games in a row since he got here according to Flashscore he has been involved in back to back games only once since start August 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Out of contract in the summer isnt he? Lets hope his performances if selected are that of a man on a mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Out of contract in the summer isnt he? Lets hope his performances if selected are that of a man on a mission. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 07/01/2019 at 20:04, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Out of contract in the summer isnt he? Ha ha, of course not,this is Villa. He signed a 4 and a half year deal in January 2017 so his lucrative contract runs out in the summer of 2021 at which time he'll be 30. Yes you read that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Tight hamstring. Again. Doubtful for Saturday. As per my previous post, just can't stay fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Tight hamstring. Again. Doubtful for Saturday. As per my previous post, just can't stay fit. Ye amazing he's got a tight hamstring after 20 mins playing.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 07/01/2019 at 16:53, Farlz said: Problem with Lansbury is he'll not play for a while then come on for about 20 minutes and look good. People will want him to start, he starts the next game and looks pretty crap and doesn't play for a while again. Happens every single time. I'm not expecting that to change now. Beuce played him alot as a dm. Lansbury is not a bloody dm!! I think he could thrive in attacking team like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Very disappointing. Another on £40k+ who should be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Whelan it is then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 He's a waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just sack him off, the blokes finished. Not that good as I said anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Beuce played him alot as a dm. Lansbury is not a bloody dm!! I think he could thrive in attacking team like this I don't remember him ever being a DM in a midfield three. Except for one or two games in pre season I remember him playing there. Other than that he has always been used either in the McGinn/Grealish role in the current set up (ie box to box) role or sometimes as a CM in a 4 man midfield which has never really worked out very well. @Dr_Pangloss was spot on above he's so inconsistent its unreal. Mainly because he tries so many hollywood long balls I think sometimes your on song and you land a few most days you just constantly give the ball away. Injury record is better than Micah Richards which is about the nicest thing you can say. Amazingly bad value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 I think this is the most disappointing signing we've made over the past few years. I was quite excited by this one and he had a brilliant debut. Since then, I can't think of a single good 60-90 minute performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: I think this is the most disappointing signing we've made over the past few years. I was quite excited by this one and he had a brilliant debut. Since then, I can't think of a single good 60-90 minute performance. His debut was amazing. He was pinging ball left and right like Barry when he used to run the show. I really thought him and hourihane would be a top duo at this level 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: His debut was amazing. He was pinging ball left and right like Barry when he used to run the show. I really thought him and hourihane would be a top duo at this level Yeah it was a really classy performance. He came across as a proper leader in that game too, barking out orders to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: Yeah it was a really classy performance. He came across as a proper leader in that game too, barking out orders to everyone. Its those deck Chairs at BMH that has scuppered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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