Rob182 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 45 minutes ago, oishiiniku_uk said: As boring as it would be to watch, you could kind of understand him trying to shut up shop if this England team were any good at defending. But they look terrified as soon as they are put under any pressure. Watching them try and play out from the back is embarrassing. But I feel like that’s because we constantly invite the opposition onto us. I’m sure I’ve seen our defence look decent for the first 15 minutes while we’re trying to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 46 minutes ago, oishiiniku_uk said: As boring as it would be to watch, you could kind of understand him trying to shut up shop if this England team were any good at defending. But they look terrified as soon as they are put under any pressure. Watching them try and play out from the back is embarrassing. I could understand it if the backline was Walker-Stones-Maguire-Shaw. Despite the stick Maguire gets that is a tournament proven backline since 2018 pretty much. However this time you've got Guehi in there with less than 10 caps and a right footer at LB so teams will just continue to expose those weaknesses as the tournament goes on. If Shaw still isn't training with the main group he's realistically not going to feature so another bizarre decision to call up any natural LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I just can’t buy into the England hype. I’ve watched football since the mid 70s, the arrogance and entitlement that comes from the media has been a huge issue in believing England are be better than everyone else (we invented the game don’t you know). The reality is England have not produced enough world class players or coaches. The FA has generally made some poor managerial appointments too, this has compounded the perpetual under achievement. It’s not going to change any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 38 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Southgate would take a minus offer on The chase Lol these are like the inverse of Chuck Norris facts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 25 minutes ago, Strog said: I just can’t buy into the England hype. I’ve watched football since the mid 70s, the arrogance and entitlement that comes from the media has been a huge issue in believing England are be better than everyone else (we invented the game don’t you know). The reality is England have not produced enough world class players or coaches. The FA has generally made some poor managerial appointments too, this has compounded the perpetual under achievement. It’s not going to change any time soon. I think the majority of people believe we have a fantastic squad of players that should realistically challenge but understand we're tactically inept so wont. I don't see that many people fully expecting us to win every tournament. Besides you could find fans of every country making bold claims. For example some Scots believe they're going to win it and they are lauded, whereas England fans are classed as arrogant for holding the same belief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Biggest chancer in the UK. How did he ever get the England job and he's had 4 major tournaments to get it right. I think it says it all about the state of the UK and how easy people are influenced and manipulated into believing they know what there doing. The whole of the FA needs to resign after this and Prince William needs to make it happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, TreeVillan said: I think the majority of people believe we have a fantastic squad of players that should realistically challenge but understand we're tactically inept so wont. I don't see that many people fully expecting us to win every tournament. Besides you could find fans of every country making bold claims. For example some Scots believe they're going to win it and they are lauded, whereas England fans are classed as arrogant for holding the same belief. I would agree that the current pool of players at England’s disposal is about as good as it’s been in my lifetime. But the fact is England has a poor coach at the helm which has, once again, held us back. The optimism of most fans is understandable, England should do better but never live up to hype. France, Germany, Italy and Spain are.miles ahead in terms of players, coaching talent and tactics and that’s just Europe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted June 20 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20 It will soon be five major tournaments that this paper-bag headed cock-nosed clearing in the woods has cost any chance of winning. He should have been hounded out of the country, or at the least the job, years ago, yet it's only now that the tide has turned. Nothing has changed, or if it has, it's been for the worse. I hate this man so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Strog said: But but but, the wet chicken will soak through the paper plate and he might get splinters from the wooden cutlery Damn. Good point. He'll just not eat, he fears salmonella 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KentVillan Posted June 20 Popular Post Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Strog said: I just can’t buy into the England hype. I’ve watched football since the mid 70s, the arrogance and entitlement that comes from the media has been a huge issue in believing England are be better than everyone else (we invented the game don’t you know). The reality is England have not produced enough world class players or coaches. The FA has generally made some poor managerial appointments too, this has compounded the perpetual under achievement. It’s not going to change any time soon. Except fans from all over Europe will tell you that Bellingham and Kane are world class, Foden has just won player of the season in the PL, we have Champions League winners and finalists throughout the team. Is it a squad that sits head and shoulders above the rest of them? No. Is it one of the best 4 or 5 squads in world football? Yes, definitely. A better coach would be getting serious results out of this set of players. The issue is our media and our history mean no sensible coach of Champions League quality would even bother giving it a crack, and no talented maverick type would get the chance. So we end up with mediocrities. Deschamps has proven that you don’t even need to be a genius to win international trophies. Just have something about you. Southgate is a serial loser. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oishiiniku_uk Posted June 20 Popular Post Share Posted June 20 (edited) I can't believe that his excuse for how terrible England are is 'we don't have a replacement for Kalvin Phillips'. No England manager, Not Roy, not Steve Mclaren, has ever said anything quite that pathetic. Phillips has been injured/out of form for 2 years or more. If Southgate and his 'elite' team of coaches can't find an alternative way to play with the resources they have available then they should give up and let someone competent take over. I'm tired of seeing this guy get a free pass because he's 'dignified' and 'level-headed' . Cowards don't win anything. Edited June 20 by oishiiniku_uk 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 1 minute ago, oishiiniku_uk said: I can't believe that his excuse for how terrible England are is 'we don't have a replacement for Kalvin Phillips'. No England manager, Not Roy, not Steve Mclaren, has ever said anything quite that pathetic. Phillips has been injured/out of form for 2 years or more. If Southgate and his 'elite' team of coaches can't find an alternative way to play with the resources they have available then they should give up and let someone competent take over. I'm tired of seeing this guy get a free pass because he's 'dignified' and level-headed. Cowards don't win anything. Yeah but he also can't pleasure his wife unless he has Phillips there too tbh Edited June 20 by Dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted June 20 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20 (edited) Where are the Southgate fans now Edited June 20 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: Where are the Southgate fans now Was there ever any? I mean outside of the causal tournament only England fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted June 20 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20 This is a man who moved to Middlesbrough to meet his ambitions. Middlesbrough for **** sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 The last 5 minutes was fair embarrassing, the whole Pickford taking the frees and didn't know what to do with it. Do England have a set piece coach like Scotland took our guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Southgate pays for the metro paper when he travels by train 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted June 20 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20 Southgate puts his phone on power save with 99% battery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 50 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Was there ever any? I mean outside of the causal tournament only England fan. Yeah he has plenty, unbelievably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 hours ago, Spoony said: His interview has left me flabbergasted. He’s pretty much thrown in the towel as we don’t have Kalvin Phillips who was available and was hopeless when he played this season what next David Batty and Graeme Le Saux were also unavailable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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