Mark Albrighton Posted November 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, blandy said: Though Ugo and Merse never got the same stick for it. Think you mean Boateng. Merson of course played for Boro, but it was George who left us for them, Merse travelled in the opposite direction. My guess why people are more critical is that Southgate made more of a fuss about ambition and winning stuff compared to the other two, then ended up there. At least I don’t remember the other two kicking up a fuss. This falls under part of the Southgate’s favourites point, but the whole needs to be have premier league experience/now needs to be playing in the upper quarter of the premier league…oh hello Kalvin, right this way! His form hasn’t been great this season, that’s why he hasn’t been chos…Ah there you are Kalvin, glad to see you’re well rested, saved you a seat! I wouldn’t mind it if he just said “Look, I rate Phillips/whomever, I’m the manager, that’s why he’s here. If he doesn’t play well then you can criticise me.” Rather than setting this increasingly contradictory criteria for selection. One thing I did/do admire him on is taking a stand on things like taking the knee etc. But having backed down under a threat of a yellow card (and I’m sure other pressures elsewhere), while yesterday’s opposition face a potentially worse fate than a yellow card back home…it’s a bit of a chink in the armour. But then I don’t really give too much of a shit about England or International football. I’m not really bothered about Villa players being selected for England, the only reason it’s of any interest to me is the idea that Villa are more attractive to players if they believe they can be called up while playing here. Beyond that, meh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted November 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: Think you mean Boateng. Ugo went to Boro too iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Designer1 said: Ugo went to Boro too iirc. Yeah he did, I just meant swap Merse for Boateng to make the original statement correct. Steve Harrison also left us to join Boro on the coaching staff there. Must have been something in the Teeside water around that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 He still turns me on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I hope he does decide to be more positive. 4-3-3 suits us better and yes we might be more vunerable to concede but out talent lies further up the pitch and it doesnt make sense to exclude one of them for a journeyman defender. I fear no team in this world cup. This is our chance to win it! Forget the form coming into the tournament it means nothing. Its tournament play that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Maybe since it's gonna be his last tournament he's just going for it, letting them all off the leash. I truly hope so, he might then leave with some respect from the fans instead of just the FA and his media buddies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Maybe since it's gonna be his last tournament ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 You know it’s gonna be 3 at the back against the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, villa4europe said: ??? Is he not quitting after this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Is he not quitting after this? Wishful thinking, his contract is until euro 2024, assuming we will then host 2028 he will see that cycle through too before walking away in to the FA executive director of something having overseen the winningest England team in history and zero trophies to show for it But just think of all those great quarter finals, semi finals and finals he loses 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Wishful thinking, his contract is until euro 2024, assuming we will then host 2028 he will see that cycle through too before walking away in to the FA executive director of something having overseen the winningest England team in history and zero trophies to show for it But just think of all those great quarter finals, semi finals and finals he loses Is that your prediction for this World Cup then to complete the set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Is that your prediction for this World Cup then to complete the set? Hard to say cos this team is good enough to give anyone a game but yeah definitley at least the QFs, light work of it too I think, we breeze in to the QFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2022 We'll be fine without Kane, just play Toney, Abraham or Watkins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Double post so Southgate is a rocket polisher Edited November 23, 2022 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Kane when England get a 89th minute penalty against the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 hours ago, fightoffyour said: We'll be fine without Kane, just play Toney, Abraham or Watkins. He don't play as a striker for Southgate anyway, more midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted November 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2022 Credit where its due that team and formation against Iran is all us against Safegate have been asking for. Keep the shackles off and go at teams and we are all happy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 5 hours ago, S-Platt said: Credit where its due that team and formation against Iran is all us against Safegate have been asking for. Keep the shackles off and go at teams and we are all happy. Agree, I felt despite picking his favourites again, the style was much more positive. Hopefully it continues against the more dangerous teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) On 23/11/2022 at 14:46, fightoffyour said: We'll be fine without Kane, just play Toney, Abraham or Watkins. Still can’t believe he’s taken a knackered Kane, a massively injury prone Wilson, and Rashford who isn’t really a classic striker, as his only options at CF. And SIX players who can play right back. Echoes of Sven leaving Defoe at home. Edited November 24, 2022 by KentVillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted November 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2022 15 hours ago, ThunderPower_14 said: Agree, I felt despite picking his favourites again, the style was much more positive. Hopefully it continues against the more dangerous teams. I can't see this happening, he will revert to type. He's had a chance to be more expansive against Croatia and Italy and chose to stay defensive and nick a goal despite needing to score and us looking terrible (second half of both games). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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