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The best thing that Gareth has given us is this thread, and now even that has become batshit boring.

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7 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Yes it is. *Your* argument is that xG is not a prediction. *His* argument is that it is 'unsustainable'. That's a prediction. Your argument might be more defensible than his, but don't be confused that you're making the same argument. 

The "unsustainable" prediction is a conclusion drawn from a succession of "xG" data points. That doesn't mean xG is predicting anything, it's just a (subjective) statistic.

They could have made the same point by showing pictures or videos of the goals illustrating how they were all screamers, instead of listing out their xG. The overall point was you can't rely on your best players to keep providing moments of magic, when everything else is crap. We as Villa fans know this better than anyone, xG or no xG.

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5 hours ago, stewiek2 said:

Apparently, when Gareth his resignation to the FA, they passed it back, he passed it sideways to Bellingham, who fed it to Kane, who passed it back to Pickford.

Many of us saw that on X first. Quotation marks & attribution would have been polite, instead of plagiarism.

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Fair play to him, totally transformed the team, the culture, the confidence, left the place in way better place than when he found it AND resigned when he should have.

 

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3 hours ago, spiezels said:

Fair play to him, totally transformed the team, the culture, the confidence, left the place in way better place than when he found it AND resigned when he should have.

he was a jude bellingham overhead kick away from leaving it in the exact same place he found it

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3 hours ago, spiezels said:

Fair play to him, totally transformed the team, the culture, the confidence, left the place in way better place than when he found it AND resigned when he should have.

 

Yeah.... probably not.

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49 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

he was a jude bellingham overhead kick away from leaving it in the exact same place he found it

First penalty shoot out win in how long, 2 finals, a quarters and  semi. What ya on about. 

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11 minutes ago, spiezels said:

First penalty shoot out win in how long, 2 finals, a quarters and  semi. What ya on about. 

If we'd have been knocked out by Slovakia, which we were a 95th minute overhead kick away from being, then this England team would not have been that far off the same miserable place we found ourselves in following the Iceland defeat

He came a last minute wonder goal away from going full circle 

And with far better players 

But now we can only judge him by his Wikipedia, which makes for great reading 

 

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29 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

If we'd have been knocked out by Slovakia, which we were a 95th minute overhead kick away from being, then this England team would not have been that far off the same miserable place we found ourselves in following the Iceland defeat

He came a last minute wonder goal away from going full circle 

And with far better players 

But now we can only judge him by his Wikipedia, which makes for great reading 

 

Wait so you’re saying he didn't improve things over his tenure? 

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13 minutes ago, spiezels said:

Wait so you’re saying he didn't improve things over his tenure? 

I'm saying he did, then he didn't and now he's leaving us in a position not a whole lot better, definitely not as better as his defenders are making out - and again all the while having better players

i dont think the general feel around the england team is that much more positive than it was 8 years ago, now imagine if bellingham hadnt scored that goal...the general feel would be in the gutter again

he should have gone after losing to italy

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Just now, villa4europe said:

I'm saying he did, then he didn't and now he's leaving us in a position not a whole lot better, definitely not as better as his defenders are making out - and again all the while having better players

i dont think the general feel around the england team is that much more positive than it was 8 years ago, now imagine if bellingham hadnt scored that goal...the general feel would be in the gutter again

he should have gone after losing to italy

Right. 

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1 hour ago, villa4europe said:

If we'd have been knocked out by Slovakia, which we were a 95th minute overhead kick away from being, then this England team would not have been that far off the same miserable place we found ourselves in following the Iceland defeat

He came a last minute wonder goal away from going full circle 

And with far better players 

But now we can only judge him by his Wikipedia, which makes for great reading 

 

His Wikipedia, or rather the England national football team manager one, reads:

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2018 World Cup – 4th place
Euro 2020 – Runners up (2nd place)
2022 World Cup – Quarter-final – 6th place
Euro 2024 – Runners up (2nd place)

Which says to me "four major tournaments entered, zero successes", making him the joint worst England manager in history. The other, England's first manager, also had no prior experience.

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20 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said:

Sky’s narrative on Southgate is comical 

until, the Euros Semis they were chucking him pelters, via their correspondents and pundits and podcasters. Now that he’s sacked, Sky are basically saying “reporters, podcasters, pundits, social media was too mean to Gareth”

The ****, they’re just a guilty as anyone else to criticising Southgate.. and spreading it 

 

I saw Neville and Carragher saying they think he should stay on and "who else can do better".

Now that they've got what they wanted two games ago, they're just trying to give themselves room to say "we told you so" when we inevitably don't win the world cup.

Such slimy pundits.

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4 hours ago, villa4europe said:

he was a jude bellingham overhead kick away from leaving it in the exact same place he found it

Which was the first shot on target, in the 95th minute, which is probably worse than when he arrived.

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13 hours ago, Django_Zooms said:

Many of us saw that on X first. Quotation marks & attribution would have been polite, instead of plagiarism.

Who got you out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? Miserable sod 

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