penguin Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Eh? We were already through before we even played the final game? You may have misread my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted July 14 Moderator Share Posted July 14 96, 21, 24 The Unholy Trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, penguin said: You may have misread my post. Clearly - by 'first round', do you mean 'round of 16'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 14 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14 standard southgate performance. sat back, had to chase the game, a moment of magic got us back in to it, sat back again the better team both in the tournament and on the night won, no doubt, but we were there up against them in spite of southgate, not because of him. a horribly predictable outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 6 months of Ten Hag then over to Gareth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 He’s gonna stay for another 4 years isn’t he? FA will never sack him, he’s earning £5m a year which he won’t get anywhere else, and he probably thinks he’s doing an amazing job getting England to all this finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 14 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Clearly - by 'first round', do you mean 'round of 16'? Yes, the first knock out round not the group stage (round?). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 He'll go even lower in my estimations if he stays on. If he's as smart as he thinks he is, he should know he's done all he can with this top quality group of players. Its been proved time and time again, you cannot win tournaments with these tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 36 minutes ago, Enda said: He sounds like he is about to cry. When he talks to the media, he blatantly knows that he’s one of the least knowledgeable managers in a job. Dropping in convenient hindsight like “we thought we needed to press them more”… “and get in behind”… to keep up the charade and disguise the fact that he is essentially a competition winner who is more suited to managing a mid-table Championship side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 It's actually an achievement to get this group of players to perform that badly across that many games. Congrats to Southgate, I honestly can't name another manager that could have done that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, AndyM3000 said: It's actually an achievement to get this group of players to perform that badly across that many games. Congrats to Southgate, I honestly can't name another manager that could have done that. Bruce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 To have Saka, Bellingham and Foden as options, and maintain a rigid defensive mentality, really is shite. We have been crap for most of the tournament and relied on “moments of magic” to get us through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: It's actually an achievement to get this group of players to perform that badly across that many games. Congrats to Southgate, I honestly can't name another manager that could have done that. Gerrard, Lampard we’ve got loads of them. It’s not as easy as it looks. Not defending him at all but not like there are loads of options who will get us playing like a top four team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Not that bothered about the loss. The biggest celebration is gonna be when Southgate confirms he's leaving. For the record I'm thinking Potter will be next. He's turned down a few decent jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 8 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: It's actually an achievement to get this group of players to perform that badly across that many games. Congrats to Southgate, I honestly can't name another manager that could have done that. Roy Hodgson? Steve McClaren? Kevin Keegan? Graham Taylor? Maybe they don’t meet the criteria across that many games, since they made sure to be knocked out early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted July 14 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 14 Said before, he has positives. We shouldn’t let disappointment completely cloud our judgement. He’s done a lot for this team. However, tactically he is miles off it. He can’t control a game and he only ever makes changes reactively. Tonight absolutely epitomised that. We won’t win a tournament under him because at the very highest level he’s always outclassed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 One of the challenges for a new manager is how to get Foden playing in this team, because 4 goals in 40 apps under Southgate is pathetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 He absolutely has to go. I don’t think he will though, so pig headed and lacking in self awareness. Go now and your head is held high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 14 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14 Now officially, statistically the joint worst England manager in history. Have been waiting 6 years to say what I knew from the start is now factually accurate, and I'd much rather it wasn't true, but there it is, Congrats cocknose, you big cocknosed clearing in the woods. Now **** off. Palmer to Watkins, Watkins to Palmer. Easy isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Not that bothered about the loss. The biggest celebration is gonna be when Southgate confirms he's leaving. For the record I'm thinking Potter will be next. He's turned down a few decent jobs. I doubt that Potter would even manage to qualify us to the WC2026. Why do you want to replace Southgate with somebody that is even less suited for the job? I’m all for replacing Southgate, but when I look at potential replacements, I’m really concerned. Yes, there are some great unrealistic candidates like Klopp and Pep, that would never take the job. But the list of realistic candidates is not impressive. Howe is the only candidate that I think could do better than Southgate, but I’m not sure FA will pay what is required to get him released from the Newcastle job. That means we will end up with somebody like Potter, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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