sidcow Posted April 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, mykeyb said: Redknapp had a week on the train into pitch and achieved more than Bruce in 8 months. Damn it. I thought we had won! Thanks for spoiling the rest of my Sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 It was poor today, it's a good job really them lot are truly awful. Wasn't a point I was too worried we'd concede. Big summer ahead for the club, not really transfer wise but Bruce has to get some sort of playing style going at least. A wins a win though so I won't complain too much and I'll enjoy it. Seasons over now so might as well put all the kids out against Blackburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Eastie said: We've won a lot of games without playing well this season - imagine what could happen if we do eventually click and start playing well That's very true that's why I'm willing to give Bruce more time. rDM we played the same and either lost the game or conceded in last 5 minutes Edited April 23, 2017 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, Farlz said: It was poor today, it's a good job really them lot are truly awful. Wasn't a point I was too worried we'd concede. Big summer ahead for the club, not really transfer wise but Bruce has to get some sort of playing style going at least. A wins a win though so I won't complain too much and I'll enjoy it. Seasons over now so might as well put all the kids out against Blackburn He said on WM that he was expecting a big summer with lots of player changes. Sounds like there is going to be quite a few comings and goings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, sidcow said: He said on WM that he was expecting a big summer with lots of player changes. Sounds like there is going to be quite a few comings and goings. How does that affect our stability that some hold so dear, might just as well sack the manger if is going to sign another 5 or 6 to go with the lot he signed in January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I see what you see. but my interpretation is much different from yours. but I also see a Harry Redknapp team that has emulated a Gary Rowett team....so maybe he didn't need much time to explain it. This Blues team was above us until a Rowett left and brought in a manager that tried to Introduce a brand of football the players could not capitalise from.....just like we had a RDM team that our players could not capitalise with his theories. you can have all the gameplans and systems in creation.......but you have to have the players to play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: So scared of being the one to give the ball away. I wish this were true. Most of them seem to be chomping at the bit to give the ball away. And also very keen to dwell on the ball for unnecessary long periods to ensure they are tackled as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, TRO said: I see what you see. but my interpretation is much different from yours. but I also see a Harry Redknapp team that has emulated a Gary Rowett team....so maybe he didn't need much time to explain it. This Blues team was above us until a Rowett left and brought in a manager that tried to Introduce a brand of football the players could not capitalise from.....just like we had a RDM team that our players could not capitalise with his theories. you can have all the gameplans and systems in creation.......but you have to have the players to play them. I'd like to see him try at least one game plan before Xmas....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, TRO said: I see what you see. but my interpretation is much different from yours. but I also see a Harry Redknapp team that has emulated a Gary Rowett team....so maybe he didn't need much time to explain it. This Blues team was above us until a Rowett left and brought in a manager that tried to Introduce a brand of football the players could not capitalise from.....just like we had a RDM team that our players could not capitalise with his theories. you can have all the gameplans and systems in creation.......but you have to have the players to play them. Again I will ask the same question that others ask you but as yet haven't answered, who are these players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) How many chances does bacuna get before Bruce realises hes shit ? Edited April 23, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, mykeyb said: How does that affect our stability that some hold so dear, might just as well sack the manger if is going to sign another 5 or 6 to go with the lot he signed in January. When you have fallen as far as we have .......you are never going to replace them in one window with suitable quality to take us back to where we want to be. It has to be a gradual improving process.......players that are good enough ,will not want to sign for us......we have to sign marginally better until our status improves and we can once again sign who we want. its a slow evolving process for us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, TRO said: But ironically had they (Blues) continued their "hard to beat"style under Rowett, they would have possibly been still above us. Zola is from the champagne football camp and these Blues players and ours have not got the quality to play it......arguably RDM is another one from that camp, who thought he could do it......the similarities are alarming. Its all very well, talking attacking football but you have to have players who can do i it without constantly losing the ball....we have players who attempt it and the moves break down......we are not ready for it. Steve Bruce was right to make us " hard to beat" in his initial approach.....He himself see's what we see....he has said today, we have much to do to improve and expects a busy summer. that says a lot to me. We have two 20 goal a season strikers, the likes of Adomah, Grealish. Lansbury had 6 goals and 3 assists in his 18 games for Forest before he signed for us, Hourihan 6 goals and 11 assists in his 25 games for Barnsley. And yet suddenly when they play for us all of them apart from Kodjia have lost that ability? We need to get over this idea that we can only either have 'grind out the wins' type football, or pretty football that does not get results. Why can't we play decent football, keep the ball better, score goals and get wins - just like the teams higher up the table? Bruce will have no excuse next season - the style of play must improve. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, TRO said: When you have fallen as far as we have .......you are never going to replace them in one window with suitable quality to take us back to where we want to be. It has to be a gradual improving process.......players that are good enough ,will not want to sign for us......we have to sign marginally better until our status improves and we can once again sign who we want. its a slow evolving process for us now. I agree with that but don't see how bacuna can start ahead of hourihane who has the most assists in the whole division . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, sidcow said: He said on WM that he was expecting a big summer with lots of player changes. Sounds like there is going to be quite a few comings and goings. So then he gets the excuse of new players needing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, DCJonah said: So then he gets the excuse of new players needing time. Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I can't believe we actually won a local derby and thus jeopardising small heath's championship status with all the moaning on here. Yes it wasn't pretty, it never is but can't we just bask in the sunshine of another victory, clean sheet and further confirmation that the city is indeed ours. Give the moaning a day off, it deserves a rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Yawn Isn't it true though? We shouldn't need another complete squad overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Isn't it true though? We shouldn't need another complete squad overhaul. We've just beaten the Blues. Couldn't you wait perhaps just till tomorrow to resume the Bruce Bashing? Everyone else is getting pissed and enjoying themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, theboyangel said: I can't believe we actually won a local derby and thus jeopardising small heath's championship status with all the moaning on here. Yes it wasn't pretty, it never is but can't we just bask in the sunshine of another victory, clean sheet and further confirmation that the city is indeed ours. Give the moaning a day off, it deserves a rest. I've got higher hopes that just beating those jokers heading to league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, sidcow said: We've just beaten the Blues. Couldn't you wait perhaps just till tomorrow to resume the Bruce Bashing? Everyone else is getting pissed and enjoying themselves. I had a great time at villa park. It was awesome. Sharing my doubts about Bruce on a forum doesn't change that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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