kurtsimonw Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Where does this idea that people "support Bruce no matter what" come from? I supported Bruce as Villa manager... but I wasn't exactly delighted with the appointment, I didn't expect the football to be enjoyable - and it wasn't. I wasn't convinced he'd take us up. I think he's very limited as a manager, and I believed the decision to let him go was correct. But message boards are for debate. If I disagree with something, especially when it's hyperbole, then why wouldn't I post my view? I don't think he left Sheff Wed in the right way, but he would have been criticised regardless of how he left the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Where does this idea that people "support Bruce no matter what" come from? I supported Bruce as Villa manager... but I wasn't exactly delighted with the appointment, I didn't expect the football to be enjoyable - and it wasn't. I wasn't convinced he'd take us up. I think he's very limited as a manager, and I believed the decision to let him go was correct. But message boards are for debate. If I disagree with something, especially when it's hyperbole, then why wouldn't I post my view? I don't think he left Sheff Wed in the right way, but he would have been criticised regardless of how he left the club. Because life is binary for some. You either call him a cabbage, kebab, moron etc or you love him. No room for a balanced view. Edited July 17, 2019 by bannedfromHandV 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Head coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioTom Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Sensible question: shall I send some cabbage seeds to all of my Newcastle supporting colleagues, or is it a bit too subtle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Tomaszk said: Head coach? According to the Newcastle fans he's not going to have any say about transfers and such stuff. Bit strange perhaps but he hasn't been much of a hands on coach during the latter part of his coaching career, or so the rumor goes anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, RadioTom said: Sensible question: shall I send some cabbage seeds to all of my Newcastle supporting colleagues, or is it a bit too subtle? They will want him out long before the cabbages have time to grow from seeds. Send them fully grown cabbages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Richard Keys just tweeted his support, he's delighted it seems british coaching is making a bit of a comeback, Newcastle couldn't have chosen any better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhatAboutTheFinish Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Roll our sleeves up, baton down the hatches and go again Expect to hear that alot newcastle fans BBC Quote "We’ll roll our sleeves up and we’ll be giving it everything from the off to ensure supporters have a successful team that they can be proud of.” First day! 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, blandy said: There are often two alternatives a manager does when he takes over. The first is typically "they aren't fit enough" type thing, the second alternative is "This is a good squad/I've been surprised at how good the players are" type approach - each of these they do to send a message to the players, to the supporters and also to be respectful of whoever the previous manager was. The aim is to add a bit of additional competitive motivation to the players (train harder, work harder), to give a struggling squad a bit of a confidence boost (they're much better than people say, they can still succeed this season) and to kind of imply to the fans that the new manager has a plan as to how to "rectify" the current struggles. But basically, managers never come in and say "the squad is useless, the last manager was useless, the fans were right to lob vegetables" - these early press lines are ultimately meaningless. If/when some success is ultimately achieved, most managers are magnanimous and tend to give credit to their staff, the players they inherited...etc. That all makes sense Pete.....However, I don't think Dean plays to the audience, like some managers, I think he speaks from the Heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Richard Keys just tweeted his support, he's delighted it seems british coaching is making a bit of a comeback, Newcastle couldn't have chosen any better Maybe, just Maybe.....He has seen the reaction to Dean Smith and Chris Wilder from the fans and thought, I need to get back to my roots too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Richard Keys just tweeted his support, he's delighted it seems british coaching is making a bit of a comeback, Newcastle couldn't have chosen any better which one of his secretaries sent it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 He's a good choice for them. He might be able to keep them over the line or get them back up. Good luck Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Where does this idea that people "support Bruce no matter what" come from? I supported Bruce as Villa manager... but I wasn't exactly delighted with the appointment, I didn't expect the football to be enjoyable - and it wasn't. I wasn't convinced he'd take us up. I think he's very limited as a manager, and I believed the decision to let him go was correct. But message boards are for debate. If I disagree with something, especially when it's hyperbole, then why wouldn't I post my view? I don't think he left Sheff Wed in the right way, but he would have been criticised regardless of how he left the club. haha.... but thats a balanced view.....it don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 17, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, TRO said: I don't think Dean plays to the audience, like some managers, I think he speaks from the Heart. Yeah, I agree. He comes across as confident in what he's saying and as honest, but also as someone who is well aware of the power of words.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted July 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2019 #bruceout is in at number 8 on twitter’s trending list, between “Joey Barton” at 7 and “John Humphrys” at 9. “Rafa Benitez to Steve Bruce” is in at number 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: BBC First day! So Steve, what are you thoughts on the squad? With the history of Newcastle, the demand of the fans, and the attacking football they were built on in the 90s and early 2000s how do you intend to play? Will you look to give the fans the glory days of free flowing, counter attacking football back St James Park? How do you envisage the side and style you plan to implement? "Well wor gonna run more than the oppo that's a given and wor take it from there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2019 **** you, Bruce. It's time to get out of management, Bruce. What were you even doing there in the first place, Bruce? You didn't even get properly promoted, Bruce. Are you happy now, Bruce? **** you, Bruce! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 Wednesday release statement. Quote The Club is disappointed to learn via public statement issued by Newcastle United that it has appointed former Sheffield Wednesday staff Steve Bruce, Steve Agnew and Steve Clemence. Regardless of the fact that the staff resigned from their positions with the Club on Monday, there remains outstanding legal issues to be resolved between the club and the staff and Newcastle United. The Club is currently considering its position and taking the appropriate legal advice. No further comment will be made by the Club concerning this matter. This is a wonderful mess he's made it really is. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted July 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: **** you, Bruce. It's time to get out of management, Bruce. What were you even doing there in the first place, Bruce? You didn't even get properly promoted, Bruce. Are you happy now, Bruce? **** you, Bruce! I read that in Rick from the Young Ones voice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Wednesday release statement. This is a wonderful mess he's made it really is. The more mess at Newastle, the better for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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