Jimzk5 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Sacking Bruce would cost cost a fortune, it's not just him that will need paying up it's also the assistants he's brought with him, Clemence, calderwood, Agnew. Probably 2/3 million getting rid of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted July 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2018 Sorry Bruce, but to me you're already gone. Ta for everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Is it not true though? If it is, that's his job. We need more than a united dressing room. Some purposeful, attacking, football would be nice. I'm not interested in how nice a chap he is. We need a manager to get us out this league, pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted July 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, Jimzk5 said: Sacking Bruce would cost cost a fortune, it's not just him that will need paying up it's also the assistants he's brought with him, Clemence, calderwood, Agnew. Probably 2/3 million getting rid of those Best investment we could make imo 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 We need a fresh start and build something long-term IMO. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 im hoping the new owners change the scouting / buying model, should be the same as what wolves have done, buy young prospects who can be developed get us to where we need to be and then sold at a profit with that in mind sit bruce down and ask him to wheel off who he wants to buy and why, if the answer is a 35 year old burnley reserves player then show him the door 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted July 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2018 Hope the owners don't buy his bull and get him out. All they need to do is watch the playoff final to see the filth he produces. Now it looks like we aren't going out of business, removing Bruce is #1 priority. Wouldn't be looking to appoint Henry myself but I'll have him over this chump. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Hope the owners don't buy his bull and get him out. All they need to do is watch the playoff final to see the filth he produces. Now it looks like we aren't going out of business, removing Bruce is #1 priority. Wouldn't be looking to appoint Henry myself but I'll have him over this chump. I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I don't think he is a good manager. I think he used to be an effective manager, but not anymore. If he stays, I'll back the club, the players and him. But I will end up being frustrated with his cautious, one-dimensional play, which costs us time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Looks like it's a bit of third time lucky for Bruce with the 5-3-2, iirc he has tried it two times before and it failed big time. Now with a whole pre season and some youngsters and others who can be moulded in to this formation it might work. When was the last time we played 5-3-2 prior to Bruce? I have a vague memory of Southgate, Ehiogu and someone else, with Charles and Wright on the wings... was it under John Gregory? I'm not really a fan of it, I think it usually gets too packed in the middle, in attack the wing backs and the three midfielders often being stood in a line congesting the middle of the pitch restricting movement. I also like proper wingers or wide forwards when 3 in attack. But carried out the right way I guess it can be efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Think McLeish did it with Ivanhoe as wingback Might be wrong thou as I've tried to wash that season from memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: im hoping the new owners change the scouting / buying model, should be the same as what wolves have done, buy young prospects who can be developed get us to where we need to be and then sold at a profit with that in mind sit bruce down and ask him to wheel off who he wants to buy and why, if the answer is a 35 year old burnley reserves player then show him the door So lads have you heard of Sebastian Larsson, Abel Hernandez and Dean Marney They will take us up 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, TheStagMan said: These guys know their stuff. They will have names in mind. No offence, but how do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: No offence, but how do you know? I don't. But looking at previous business transactions (Google research on them) they don't seem to fail at anything they do. My OPINION on how this would come about is through careful planning and prep work. However I could be wrong and they also could be shysters who got drunk and bought the club on ebay accidentally. I doubt it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: I don't. But looking at previous business transactions (Google research on them) they don't seem to fail at anything they do. My OPINION on how this would come about is through careful planning and prep work. However I could be wrong and they also could be shysters who got drunk and bought the club on ebay accidentally. I doubt it though. Ignoring the obviously absurd implication in the third line, it would hardly be a world first if they had bought the club at the time they did because that was the best time for them to make the deal, and that they haven't got a CEO or manager lined up yet. I suppose we'll find out fairly shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, sne said: Think McLeish did it with Ivanhoe as wingback Might be wrong thou as I've tried to wash that season from memory I remember him playing Hutton in right wing some match, but can't remember 3 at the back, could be that he did at times. It was difficult to tell what the formations were though. Was more like a 9-1-0 (Stephen Ireland being the 1). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Keener window-cleaner said: When was the last time we played 5-3-2 prior to Bruce? I have a vague memory of Southgate, Ehiogu and someone else, with Charles and Wright on the wings... was it under John Gregory? Someone else?! Put some respek on God's name sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Haha I'm sorry I meant in the seasons after McGrath, I don't remember who used to play alongside them after (Grayson? Scimeca?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: When was the last time we played 5-3-2 prior to Bruce? I have a vague memory of Southgate, Ehiogu and someone else, with Charles and Wright on the wings... was it under John Gregory? Paul McGrath and Brian Little both pretty forgettable I guess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 The only scenario for me wanting Bruce to stay would be if it meant Grealish staying. If Grealish leaves anyway (he might according to John Percy) then I see absolutely no reason for Bruce to stay. Keeping Grealish happy is the only thing Bruce offers right now imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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