rubberman Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: when does the window to get a late transfer or loan to help the new guy end? It SLAMS shut @ 23:00 on Aug 31st. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Ok lets break it down 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Long balls Are Villa really the long ball side that fans are proclaiming them to be? The simple answer is no. When it comes to 'sending it long', Villa are nowhere near to being one of the worst culprits. In fact, they are one of the least likely teams to play long ball football, based on the stats so far. You see, Villa actually only hit 61 long passes on average per game, that may seem a lot, it's not. 61 long balls to Hogan or Gaby is 61 too many 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Only Norwich and Fulham have hit less long balls than Villa have. 21 teams in the league have hit more long balls than Villa, Bolton are top of the tree with 90. The number only becomes relevent when the players being "Hoofed" (long balled) too, can or cannot make something of a hoof We CANT 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Steve Bruce Joint league-leaders Wolves have hit 81 long balls, yet they are being hailed for their silky football. If anything, Villa are the victims of the long ball game, the stats show that they have been on the receiving end of 81 long balls per game Crosses Aston Villa crosses per game 25 Aston Villa crosses per game The truth is that Villa are trying to play football, they are averaging 25 crosses every game, that is more than any other team in the league. Again - crosses to who? Andy Lochhead? 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Things are falling down in the final third, the holding of the ball isn't good enough, nor is the strikers getting on the end of these crosses that are clearly being created. Shots In terms of shots, Villa have certainly been shy with attempts on target. They have had just 32 shots on target, compare that to 60 by Milwall. Aston Villa boss Steve Bruce said this when asked about Arsenal's Jack Wilshere It's also worth noting that Wolves have had less with 30 shots, they are joint top and have a 100% record so far. Fact is - half chances/shot that have no chance of going in (lets not forget that a Hutton cross that goes out of play for a GK counts as "a shot off target") dont get you a goal. creating a "sure fire" chance that goes in does 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Possession Aston Villa possession 48.9% The average possession per game Villa aren't controlling games so far, strange considering the influx of new midfielders. You only have to look at the average possession of 48.9% to see that the team are not dominating games. That said, they aren't that near the bottom of the rankings for possession, they are in 16th place. Second from bottom are Cardiff, and we all know where they are in the league. Let's take a look for a minute at the game between Villa and Cardiff, a 3-0 whitewash as history remembers it. Villa dominated the play with 65% of possession! They had 7 corners to Cardiff's 4, made 432 passes to Cardiff's 234. They hit less long balls and had a passing accuracy of 76.4%. They had less shots than Cardiff, but made 33 crosses compared to 17. Not only did they dominate play, they passed Cardiff off the pitch and peppered them with crosses. They just need the goals to come and the players to be more clinical. To conclude The stats of course only tell a certain side of the story, Villa haven't been good enough, that much is abundantly clear. They are however, very far removed from being the long-ball stone age side that the Championship remembers so fondly from the 90s and 00s. Of course, the only stats that Steve Bruce will be interested in come Saturday are the ones that show Villa scoring more goals than Norwich! So what do we learn from these stats? Only that inneffective football doesnt get you goals, win or dominate games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 We don't hit long balls because usually it's a rushed clearance, or a scuffed clearance that was intended as a long ball. One that doesn't go 20 yards shortly before the ball ends up in the back of our net. I am looking at you Hutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted August 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2017 We dont hit that many long balls as we never have the ball 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, rubberman said: It SLAMS shut @ 23:00 on Aug 31st. seems to me like a good reason to move early...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Bruce Out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Villa Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I'm struggling to see why he's still around. Surely, the we're not basing their decision on the Norwich and Bristol City games? It was dire last year, it was poor pre-season, and it's been bloody awful the first three games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I'd like it if we hit long balls, but we don't even do that. Not sure what Bruce is telling them, but it looks to me like they are trying to break as quick as pos but smacking the first ball of the move in a hurry and rarely to another player. I honestly think he is trying to do a Leicester, all it needs is a bit of accuracy from the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 To hit long balls you'd have to actually have the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Our tactics are simple and was keep it tight, get it to Kodjia and hope he produces a bit of magic and sit back Kodjia is out we dont have a Plan B 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Bruce out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Our tactics are simple and was keep it tight, get it to Kodjia and hope he produces a bit of magic and sit back Kodjia is out we dont have a Plan B Unfortunately it seems that way. Last year with Kodjia it was obvious it couldn't get consistent results. This year without kodjia it's a **** disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Bruce out! Twas all that was ever needed saying. FWIW I'm also Bruce Out, regrettably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 35 mins into the game on Tuesday, Reading had had 246 passes and us 23. And Bruce said we were unlucky to loose!! Promotion favourites with 23 passes in over half an hour. Unbelievable. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Villa play crap looking football under Steve Bruce. Stats can't dissprove what we have all seen with our own eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Villa play crap looking football under Steve Bruce. Stats can't dissprove what we have all seen with our own eyes. They prove what we have witnessed and it's damning indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 9 hours ago, dn1982 said: To hit long balls you'd have to actually have the ball. Long balls - that's what rugby players use. Have we regressed back to our origins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Villa Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Can't believe I'm hearing that Bruce needs to be given more time on the Evening Mai podcast. Are these guys not watching the same games we are, or is Stevie slipping them a few quid after every game? I'm sick of watching crap each week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, USA_Villa said: Can't believe I'm hearing that Bruce needs to be given more time on the Evening Mai podcast. Are these guys not watching the same games we are, or is Stevie slipping them a few quid after every game? I'm sick of watching crap each week. I'm sure he is gone after Norwich game as there is no way we are winning tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Whats more pretty, our football or our manager? Theres certainly a resemblance there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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