honest_bertie Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Never wanted him, wanted Wagner or Brentford manager at the time he came in. Ticked a lot of boxes but has failed spectacularly to get us into any sort of state where we have a style of play, look like we have a game plan and could take on any team in the division, always feels like we could be beaten by anyone. Pull the trigger please Tony, before its to late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted August 12, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, andyh said: What **** shite will the Bruce apologists have to explain the latest aberration? Christ alright. I think most people have conceded the error of their ways today. What do you want? A mass Cersi style naked walk of shame so all the longstanding anti Bruce people can hurl rotten vegetables and insults at us? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted August 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, VillaCas said: Lots on here praising Bruce during the close season but few putting their heads above the parapet now I praised him over the summer and now within 45 minutes of full time in our third game of the season, after one win, one draw, one defeat you're saying posters like me have been slow to put their head above the parapet. I mean really mate come on get a grip ffs it is not some competition where we call each other out on being right or wrong about players or managers as the bottom line is that we all want the same thing don't we which is to win games regardless of who is on the pitch or who is on the touch line. As for Bruce he needed to hit the ground running this season as he would always be judged quickly having been given 3/4 of last season. I don't think 3 games into this season is long enough to make a definitive judgement but I'd imagine by the end of this month, so 3 more league games, he needs to win a coupe of them as otherwise he could well be out come the international break. Edited August 12, 2017 by markavfc40 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Could Be Rotterdam Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Has one sentence ever summed up Bruce better than 'maybe we're not ready to play two strikers'? Jesus christ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, markavfc40 said: I praised him over the summer and now within 45 minutes of full time in our third game of the season, after one win, one draw, one defeat you're saying posters like me have been slow to put their head above the parapet. I mean really mate come on get a grip ffs it is not some competition where we call each other out on being right or wrong about players or managers as the bottom line is that we all want the same thing don't we which is to win games regardless of who is on the pitch or who is on the touch line. As for Bruce he needed to hit the ground running this season as he would always be judged quickly having been given 3/4 of last season. I don't think 3 games into this season is long enough to make a definitive judgement but I'd imagine by the end of this month, so 3 more league games, he needs to win a coupe of them as otherwise he could well be out come the international break. Always happy to read your posts, Mark. Very level headed and never a need a score points off others. Well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 games is enough to see he has made no significant changes to his approach, and no significant improvements to the side. This was worse than last year here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Steve Bruce being a competent manager is fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: Steve Bruce being a competent manager is fake news. Yes it is. Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Christ alright. I think most people have conceded the error of their ways today. What do you want? A mass Cersi style naked walk of shame so all the longstanding anti Bruce people can hurl rotten vegetables and insults at us? I think any naked walks should be by invitation only and participation strictly monitored by a quality control committee. Obviously in these modern times there can't possibly be any gender discrimination, but anyone with more than zero bollocks need not apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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This Could Be Rotterdam Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 He also said he'd only been here 6/7 months. He came here last October, the same week as warnock. Two transfer windows in and he doesn't know his best 11. I wouldn't blame xia if he was sacked tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The biggest problem I have with Bruce is that we are just so predictable in everything. I knew we wouldn't win today. I doubt we will win either or our next two either. If the fans feel that way then surely it must be pretty easy for our opponents when facing us? I said he would be gone within 6 - 8 games. If I was Xia I'd be having a really good chat with him on Monday to ask him why nothing has changed from last season. I think he might even sack him if we don't win either of the next two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, bradarmstrong_ said: I suspect if we are 3 games in and play like that the consequences will be much the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, bradarmstrong_ said: I'm glad it's been made clear to him. I wouldn't even waste 10 games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, bradarmstrong_ said: If were ten games in and we replace the manager then we have no chance of getting in the top 6 Action needs to be taken now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Reivax_Villa said: We're in a tough predicament right now. We had a pre-season that consisted of great PR with a mission statement of promotion. We all were told the things that we wanted to hear and there has been a lot of gloss over this summer. The tone has changed from; " Building a squad capable to mount a challenge " " Needing time to settle " "Needing Pre- Season to create a style" "Buying the players that can handle the pressure" All of the above have been excuses not only from Bruce but by Keith Wyness. The problem that we now have is that this is our second game this season and many could say that we are jumping the gun of wanting Bruce out.. Maybe we should not have renewed his rolling contract at the end of last season? So what happens now? We sack him, hire a new manager and expect promotion? - I genuinely think that if that happens then it is a footballing miracle. He stays and proves us all wrong? He stays and we finish mid-table and lose half of our squad next summer because of FFP We sack him, hire a new manager but he needs a year to rebuild this squad that has already been rebuilt? - This could potentially damage the dressing room but I am sure we are use to that though aren't we? I do think the biggest problem that we have is the manager. I think that his coaching squad is threadbare and totally inept but that's just my opinion. If I had my way I would not have renewed his rolling contract last season and would have tried to pinch Jokanovic from Fulham and gave him a full pre-season. Despite Jokanovic being unhappy at Fulham, I don't think that we are in a position to get him right now because a lot of managers perhaps views this club as a managers graveyard which currently... it is. I still think that automatic promotion is a stretch for this season, as I have said many times on here (Despite being challenged), we do not have the squad capable of mounting a challenge nor do we have the best squad in the Championship. Or we actually hire a manager who knows what he is doing and gets us to at least a play off push. not every alternative has to be a negative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 No amount of time will change things. The quicker he is gone the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 42 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Reasons to keep Bruce erm... He's a lovely bloke We were next to his family at the Hull game and they all seem nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I think he has a hell of a nerve expecting 10 games if they are anything like that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: not every alternative has to be a negative This is Aston Villa. You know whatever we do will be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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