Sam3773 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 From what I've seen, the primary job of the assistant manager is to take the wheel just as the vehicle about to hit the central reservation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The amount of times today I've refreshed this forum to see it still on Next Villa Manager and not one that says Steve Bruce (or even a surprise appointment), checked BBC , checked Birmingham Mail.... Come on Villa, I need closure dammit closure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Nigel said: I go every week....thats precisly why id like to see a long term plan rather than the usual short termism! What usual short term-ism? The only manager who remotely fits that description is Sherwood. They all came, they all failed. I'm sick of it. Sick of the gambles, the fancy ideals, the "dream teams". Give me meat and potatoes, big man little man, 4-4-fu**ing-2 and a couple of wins on the bounce and I'm a happy chappy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Nigel said: If it is to be Bruce what is the hold up? We seem to now be approaching all the Assistants: P Nev, Steve Agnew, Warren Joyce, Clarke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 If it is Bruce, I do not understand why it has taken so long if he is keen on the job and is out of work currently. Possibly backroom staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wazzap24 Posted October 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Blueprints, long term plans, yadda yadda yadda. Just give me a bloody winning football team. Amen and praise be to Paul McGrath. 'Blueprints' in football are a load of old shite. Everyone these days has a five year plan for this, that and the other - yet most managers last less than a year or two and your best players **** off before you can get half way towards where you want to be. We had a five year plan when Lerner took over, look at us now. Here is the best and most realistic, long-term plan you will see in football. 1. Win games 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: Amen and praise be to Paul McGrath. 'Blueprints' in football are a load of old shite. Everyone these days has a five year plan for this, that and the other - yet most managers last less than a year or two and your best players **** off before you can get half way towards where you want to be. We had a five year plan when Lerner took over, look at us now. Here is the best and most realistic, long-term plan you will see in football. 1. Win games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: What usual short term-ism? The only manager who remotely fits that description is Sherwood. They all came, they all failed. I'm sick of it. Sick of the gambles, the fancy ideals, the "dream teams". Give me meat and potatoes, big man little man, 4-4-fu**ing-2 and a couple of wins on the bounce and I'm a happy chappy. The usual short terism we have had since O'neil left. Jesus even Lamberts (The only one given any real time) main aim was to keep us afloat whilst Lerner continually took the rug from under him. Every manager had an impossible remit. How is that not short termist thinking? We are both singing from the same sheet in that we are fed up with it. However I just want to see a plan. Some way of making us into a a team that can cope once the shit starts hitting the fan again. Id love to see an idea that we could take to the premiership when we do return; One that the players a comfortable with and make us dangerous to the opposition. The idea of a quick few wins in this league isnt what im after TBH. They will come anyway, the league is too poor to allow us not to get them. Its what happens after that Im a bit worried about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) I get the win games thing. But I wan't a manager with an actual strategy for how to win games, short and long term. Not the "put 11 people on the pitch and hope for the best" thing we've had too much of in the last 8 or so years. Be it Bruce, his dog, or that guy from the Mummy. Edited October 10, 2016 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 20 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I quite like the Neville brothers - I don't necessarily want them in charge of my football club, but I find them a likeable pair of individuals. I always had a soft spot for " Tell it like it is " , wonderful vocals . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, sne said: I get the win games thing. But I wan't a manager with an actual strategy for how to win games, short and long term. Not the "put 11 people on the pitch and hope for the best" thing we've had too much of in the last 8 or so years. Be it Bruce, his dog, or that guy from the Mummy. Well, yeah. I want a football manager too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, sne said: I get the win games thing. But I wan't a manager with an actual strategy for how to win games, short and long term. Anyone can tell you they have a strategy, but the only real key to longevity in football is being able to adapt to what's in front of you and to keep winning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, Nigel said: The usual short terism we have had since O'neil left. Jesus even Lamberts (The only one given any real time) main aim was to keep us afloat whilst Lerner continually took the rug from under him. Every manager had an impossible remit. How is that not short termist thinking? We are both singing from the same sheet in that we are fed up with it. However I just want to see a plan. Some way of making us into a a team that can cope once the shit starts hitting the fan again. Id love to see an idea that we could take to the premiership when we do return; One that the players a comfortable with and make us dangerous to the opposition. The idea of a quick few wins in this league isnt what im after TBH. They will come anyway, the league is too poor to allow us not to get them. Its what happens after that Im a bit worried about. Bit in bold, I'm not sure I agree. We could continue to lose. If it's Steve Bruce then great. He's vastly experienced but still in his mid-50's so not over the hill, fresh from a short rest, he will have a decent squad to work with that craves organisation and stability (and any semblance of a plan) and he knows the division inside and out. I dare not ask for any more at this stage, considering what we've been through to try and search for the next Eddie Howe is utterly bonkers IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Not done then yet then. Maybe tomorrow or Wed latest? Some time to prepare for Wolves would be useful. Past caring who it is now - just hoping whoever it is will be an improvement and get us winning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 57 minutes ago, Nigel said: If it is to be Bruce what is the hold up? That's exactly what I've been thinking. The sooner we get a manager in assessing the squad and preparing us for quite a stressful match against Wolves, the better. Maybe we've asked to see his academic qualifications and he is still hunting in the attic for his woodwork O Level certificate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, briny_ear said: That's exactly what I've been thinking. The sooner we get a manager in assessing the squad and preparing us for quite a stressful match against Wolves, the better. Maybe we've asked to see his academic qualifications and he is still hunting in the attic for his woodwork O Level certificate. He's in your kitchen eating all your sausage rolls. 'Av that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 10, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2016 I would expect Clarke to take charge of the team for the Wolves game at this point anyway, so a quick appointment is not that necessary. Once it's this week or next then that'll do me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Nigel said: If it is to be Bruce what is the hold up? Could be conflicting schedules with his role as an elderly Draco Malfoy in the upcoming Harry Potter movie? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, BOF said: I would expect Clarke to take charge of the team for the Wolves game at this point anyway, so a quick appointment is not that necessary. Once it's this week or next then that'll do me. That would be pretty silly from a villa point of view, home game live on sky, big derby he isn't attached what's the hold up? How motivated is Clarke likely to be if he is potentially leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted October 10, 2016 Administrator Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 hours ago, jon_c said: But Huddersfield might be in the Premiership by then too. Now that's pessimism. Huddersfield to become Scotch before we're promoted. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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