DaveAV1 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 He could possibly be used as a make weight in a deal somewhere along the line. At the moment numbers are a problem and until that changes he’s a useful option. On a good day at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, DaveAV1 said: He could possibly be used as a make weight in a deal somewhere along the line. At the moment numbers are a problem and until that changes he’s a useful option. On a good day at least. On current form we will want him to stay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Too much upheaval as it is. I’d keep him as a squad player and reassess in Jan/summer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Think he's got what it takes in the prem. Last time we were there we had Gestede, Ayew and Sinclair. They all got goals in the prem and he's better than them and knows the squad to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I don’t think we should sell him but how has a guy that many didn’t feel was good enough last season in the Championship all of a sudden become ready for the Premier league? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t think we should sell him but how has a guy that many didn’t feel was good enough last season in the Championship all of a sudden become ready for the Premier league? Good question.... I think Kodjia however will be far more suited to Prem football than Championship. Some players just are. He will/should want to impress being on the biggest stage for the first time. As infuriating as he can be there is no doubt he could easily hit double figures with enough game time and as we've seen time and time again he scores just when we need him too. The more options up front the better imo. I definitely would not let him go anywhere just yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junxs Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t think we should sell him but how has a guy that many didn’t feel was good enough last season in the Championship all of a sudden become ready for the Premier league? On the flip side many did feel he was good enough for the championship, its probably those same people that think he is good enough for the Premier League. I'm one of them, I don't get why some Villa fan don't rate him to be honest. I think he's the most skilful player at the club and proved his worth time and again. He only played a bit part last season and still come out with 9 goals and 2 assists. The only time he was given a run in the side was when Abraham was injured and he scored 3 goals in 4 games. Yes he occasionally tries too much, and occasionally doesn't release the ball quick enough, but thats because he's skilful and backs himself to be able to do something. Because of this people forget the times when he does something special because they expect it or just dont appreciate it because they hold some kind of grudge against him. Like when he dribbled around 2 or 3 players and set up Hourihanes goal against Leeds. If Grealish had done that then there would have been a gif made and played over and over on Villa social media. Edited June 24, 2019 by Junxs got assists wrong! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Junxs said: On the flip side many did feel he was good enough for the championship, its probably those same people that think he is good enough for the Premier League. I'm one of them, I don't get why some Villa fan don't rate him to be honest. I think he's the most skilful player at the club and proved his worth time and again. He only played a bit part last season and still come out with 9 goals and 7 assists. The only time he was given a run in the side was when Abraham was injured and he scored 3 goals in 4 games. Yes he occasionally tries too much, and occasionally doesn't release the ball quick enough, but thats because he's skilful and backs himself to be able to do something. Because of this people forget the times when he does something special because they expect it or just dont appreciate it because they hold some kind of grudge against him. Like when he dribbled around 2 or 3 players and set up Hourihanes goal against Leeds. If Grealish had done that then there would have been a gif made and played over and over on Villa social media. Wait hold up, 7 assists? Damn. Being involved in 16 goals in 20 or so appearances is actually really damn good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) After Tammy with 26 goals, he was joint second scorer on 9 with Conor Hourihane. Edited June 24, 2019 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Junxs said: On the flip side many did feel he was good enough for the championship, its probably those same people that think he is good enough for the Premier League. I'm one of them, I don't get why some Villa fan don't rate him to be honest. I think he's the most skilful player at the club and proved his worth time and again. He only played a bit part last season and still come out with 9 goals and 7 assists. The only time he was given a run in the side was when Abraham was injured and he scored 3 goals in 4 games. Yes he occasionally tries too much, and occasionally doesn't release the ball quick enough, but thats because he's skilful and backs himself to be able to do something. Because of this people forget the times when he does something special because they expect it or just dont appreciate it because they hold some kind of grudge against him. Like when he dribbled around 2 or 3 players and set up Hourihanes goal against Leeds. If Grealish had done that then there would have been a gif made and played over and over on Villa social media. I agree with pretty much most of what you say. Not certain I agree about being the most skilful player in the club - I'd give this to Jack - though there is not much in this - I'd say without hesitation he is the most skilful striker in the club and I would like to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Junxs said: On the flip side many did feel he was good enough for the championship, its probably those same people that think he is good enough for the Premier League. I'm one of them, I don't get why some Villa fan don't rate him to be honest. I think he's the most skilful player at the club and proved his worth time and again. He only played a bit part last season and still come out with 9 goals and 7 assists. The only time he was given a run in the side was when Abraham was injured and he scored 3 goals in 4 games. Yes he occasionally tries too much, and occasionally doesn't release the ball quick enough, but thats because he's skilful and backs himself to be able to do something. Because of this people forget the times when he does something special because they expect it or just dont appreciate it because they hold some kind of grudge against him. Like when he dribbled around 2 or 3 players and set up Hourihanes goal against Leeds. If Grealish had done that then there would have been a gif made and played over and over on Villa social media. Decent stats to be fair. He just looks way off the pace to me. All about opinions I guess. Edited June 24, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t think we should sell him but how has a guy that many didn’t feel was good enough last season in the Championship all of a sudden become ready for the Premier league? Last season the discussion was framed around him being one of our star players. Now we're looking at him as a squad player. Yes, we're stepping up a level, but the bar is still probably a bit lower for a PL backup striker than a Championship striker leading the line for a team chasing automatic promotion. Kodj has a better record in the Championship than Ashley Barnes, for example, who is the same age as him, and that's someone who's managing to start regularly in the PL now. Not saying he's going to set the world on fire, but most of the teams we're up against have about 3-4 specialist strikers in their squad, and Kodj seems at a comparable level to a lot of the 3rd choice players. Have a look at teams like Burnley, Bournemouth, Watford. They all have someone who is a 15-20 goal player in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t think we should sell him but how has a guy that many didn’t feel was good enough last season in the Championship all of a sudden become ready for the Premier league? Many thought all hogan needed was service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Wait hold up, 7 assists? Damn. Being involved in 16 goals in 20 or so appearances is actually really damn good. Sorry it was actually 9 goals and 2 assists, was looking in the wrong place He did have a pass accuracy of 85% though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 It was to his misfortune (and our good fortune) that Tammy was on fire for 3/4 of the time he was here, and by the time he went off the boil, he was still flying high on what he had already done - so was still getting picked despite a string of poor performances towards the end - understandably so. As an out and out striker, I’d have had him over Tammy every day of the week. Tammy’s general contribution and genuine leadership qualities were head and shoulders above kodj, and hence the preference in the team, but ability wise, Kodj would get the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Junxs said: Sorry it was actually 9 goals and 2 assists, was looking in the wrong place He did have a pass accuracy of 85% though Where were u looking? The number of touches column for Hogan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Thug said: Where were u looking? The number of touches column for Hogan? For some reason I combined his yellow cards and asissts!! Was watching the U21s at the same time so was distracted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, Junxs said: Sorry it was actually 9 goals and 2 assists, was looking in the wrong place He did have a pass accuracy of 85% though I remember both assists too. One was a lovely through ball for Tammy against, I wanna say Rotherham at home and the other was a nice run and lay off for Hourihane against Leeds at home. He's put in some nice displays at VP this season. It's away from home he seems to struggle sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Junxs said: For some reason I combined his yellow cards and asissts!! Was watching the U21s at the same time so was distracted Lol, I thought you were starting your own fake news channel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Lets see what forwards come in between now and the season's start. Worth keeping for wildcard factor alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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