OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 There's no real segregation at the stadium, there's an active secondary ticket market, there's not enough security around the stadium and next to no crowd control - it's the 70's in terms of organisation and I think we know where that'll end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 Copa final should be nice and spicy when they eventually kick off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Villan_of_oz said: Copa final should be nice and spicy when they eventually kick off... If. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: There's no real segregation at the stadium, there's an active secondary ticket market, there's not enough security around the stadium and next to no crowd control - it's the 70's in terms of organisation and I think we know where that'll end up. And Trump will have been back in long enough to raise the tension of the nation, have it teetering with intolerance just when massive international crowds arrive .... It will be absolutely chaotic Edited July 15 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 They reacted to pressure on the gates by essentially locking everyone out until 30 minutes before kick off - then just opened the doors and had crushes and stampedes. There's talk now of kick off being at 02:30 our time - that's 21:30 their time - and they've already extended half time to 25 minutes for Shakira - which means the game will finish at about 23:40 or with extra time, some time after midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I know that stadium quite well. It's a nightmare. Miles and miles out of town impossible to get to without a car, huge steel fences right round it, the staff are always dickheads, and Miami is really bloody hot and sweaty and horrible. Very predictable it would go to shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Kick off now expected at 02:15 UK time (BST). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 Mental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 The US doesn't seem to have picked up on separate ticket collection points in cities for different fans, separate fan parks away from the ground with transport provided - there doesn't seem to be any prevention on touting, either online or at the stadiums, there's no enforced segregation inside the stadium, only suggested areas to buy tickets, and they seem completely unaware of the idea that fans without tickets will show up. It's a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 Garnacho and Acunas families have been unable to get into the stadium - and MacAllister had to leave the dressing room to try to help his family get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Surely set up for some pretty horrific crowd violence if they’ve let a bunch of people through without tickets and proper checks, and haven’t segregated the two sets of supporters. This is going to be a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 There seems to be no sort of crowd control at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 That's uncomfortable to watch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 Are these even police? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: That's uncomfortable to watch. Have these idiots not looked at the history we've had with crowd problems? That's horrible to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 Well, they've sung the anthems - I guess we're about to get underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 15 Moderator Share Posted July 15 Having initially locked everybody out while they tried to catch fans inside the stadium who had jumped the gates (not necessarily ticketless fans, there were fans desperate to get in that couldn't due to delays), it looks like they then opened all of the gates and didn't check tickets at all - there are reports that the stadium is absolutely crammed full, well beyond its capacity. They could do with sitting down with police forces from other countries to learn how to police football matches - it's an alien culture of support and they need some help. Imagine this but with 25,000 organised hardcore Eastern European hooligans - it doesn't bear thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioVilla Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: The US doesn't seem to have picked up on separate ticket collection points in cities for different fans, separate fan parks away from the ground with transport provided - there doesn't seem to be any prevention on touting, either online or at the stadiums, there's no enforced segregation inside the stadium, only suggested areas to buy tickets, and they seem completely unaware of the idea that fans without tickets will show up. It's a mess. To be honest, it's totally foreign to us. We don't have even a quarter of the problem that European fans have or any one else. Hopefully this is the wake up call. They definitely thought they could treat this like a random NFL game, and instead, they got the ultimate football crowd experience. Very lucky they didn't see a massive tragedy. Hopefully there are no incidents post match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 were they doing the whole ticket resale thing for this? my experience of sporting events in the states is that you don't buy tickets from the clubs or the stadiums you buy them through resale portals that doesn't work with football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts