Wainy316 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Gutted if Live has been ditched, was really looking forward to that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 It just seems a bit Doug-esque penny-pinching. In the grand scheme of things it is probably a saving one half decent signing for a potential facility that could have been used by Villa fans and the local community for years to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Gutted if Live has been ditched, was really looking forward to that It was the easy way to minimise impact on the traffic. Keep fans at the stadium longer and spread out the departure times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I'm sure many of us will be familiar working for companies in which the center of power is across the atlantic or on the subcontinent. Often the first thing to be done is brutal cuts to the bottom line and this unfortunately is often very short term focused. So to me it looks like someone new has come in and thought "this is an easy cost saving". Our great owners however are very long term focused, just i think on this issuse, the immediate priority is to rein in the cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, The Fun Factory said: It just seems a bit Doug-esque penny-pinching. In the grand scheme of things it is probably a saving one half decent signing for a potential facility that could have been used by Villa fans and the local community for years to come. It does seem odd because this spending wouldn't come out of FFP anyway. Obviously they're business men, and won't waste money, but also a reminder that we don't have UAE/Saudi/Qatar state levels of funding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted June 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2023 The new North Stand idea is cursed. How many times now has it been planned but not happened? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: It just seems a bit Doug-esque penny-pinching. In the grand scheme of things it is probably a saving one half decent signing for a potential facility that could have been used by Villa fans and the local community for years to come. Yeah I thought the whole point was we need to find ways of increasing revenue both on matchdays and non-matchdays and seems a bit short-sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2023 I think the Villa Live is just being kicked down the road for now with elements done on the cheap in the new stand and existing buildings. Not ideal but they may revisit it in a couple of year if we continue to be successful and/or if the economic situation improves and building costs equalise. I agree though, this was a big part of the transport mitigation plan with people arriving earlier and leaving later. I suspect the bulk of the station money will come from central Government if we are successful in getting the Euros. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: Yeah I thought the whole point was we need to find ways of increasing revenue both on matchdays and non-matchdays and seems a bit short-sighted. The real dough is the improved corporate facilities in the trinity and new north stand, if/when built. This was going to be a nice match day facility for the great unwashed, therefore less money. Edited June 28, 2023 by The Fun Factory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) I'd be more concerned if they just blindly barreled ahead throwing money at things not directly related to smart and sustainable player recruitment/wages and the actual North stand redevelopment and Trinty/Holte improvements. Get those things sorted, keep increasing revenue, win a trophy or two, and then double back to Villa Live. This news could be the result of Heck's scrutiny. NSWE have brought him in to take a fine tooth comb to our finances. Edited June 28, 2023 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Sighs. Well at least the new stand is going ahead, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Will this have any impact on us hosting Euro 2028 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycv Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 So, I don't think this is a big thing.... I expect it might go something like: Refurbish the current site asap planning is granted - move villa staff into new admin accommodation in the summer to start work on North Stand immediately. Then look at if Villa Live is still needed. The proposed refurbishment of the current space sounds like it will do most of what Villa Live would. I think this is a plan to speed delivery... This shows commitment and willingness to get on. I doubt it is cost saving. It will also be interesting to see any plans for the Holte and Doug Ellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, villarule123 said: The new North Stand idea is cursed. How many times now has it been planned but not happened? This is the third attempt. The first was part of the original plan with the new Trinity in about 2000, the idea was then to continue over the north stand with the corners filled and a new roof. But at the time we were averaging about 30-32,000 so was no demand to do so and then Doug got ill and sold up. Attempt two was in the heady early Lerner days up to about 2010. Lerners mentioned several times about expanding the ground. Some images of proposed mock-ups have been available to see online. But no application was ever put in and Lerner lost interest. This is the most serious attempt and hopefully, it will happen, albeit modified and delayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 The club need to communicate what is going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 9 hours ago, blunther said: I wonder if it's possible that they know that 50k is basically maxed out and the fan experience of getting in and out will be shit, so they're having one last look around for a site for a new ground before committing to VP. Please don't mention a new ground. I'm 72 and I want die before that happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Villa 59 said: Please don't mention a new ground. I'm 72 and I want die before that happens I'm 74 and I feel the same. Villa Park is my spiritual home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Lion Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Obviously the club have been told Witton Station is not being upgraded after today’s announcement from BCC. Therefore they have probably decided to go ahead with the North Stand and upgrade Stumps in the meantime putting Villa Live on the back burner. This will give them time to judge whether Villa Live is viable in the long run. Maybe the club is looking at subsidising buses to and from the ground as an alternative. All in all a sensible approach. I like Heck’s decision making approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I was never convinced by Villa Live but with it being such a big investment you’d have thought enough research and due diligence would have been undertaken that it should just be ready to roll with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Always actually thought they’d better off refurbishing and repurposing the academy building. Doesn’t mean the planned facilities will be any different. As it’s a massive space for a covered fan-zone and may actually be better in terms of street food stands etc. and is more I keeping with the area. Why knock down a perfectly good structure for vanity? Wasn’t a fan of the proposed Villa live building anyhow, blocked the new stand off slightly and had a cheap municipal vibe to it in terms of its design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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