Demitri_C Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Zatman said: but he is a crap manager No he isnt in my view, you dont get jobs at Chelsea or Schalke if your crap and you certainly don't win champions leagues Edited May 18, 2016 by Demitri_C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 26 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Certainly no ITK here, but if the sale happens shortly and Wyness does arrive, could Moyes be tempted I wonder? I'd be happy with that. You would think that if this takeover has been rumbling on for a while, the new owner/s would have his team in place already. I'd expect an appointment to be made pretty quickly after the takeover is concluded and I'd be absolutely over the moon if it were Moyes. I think he is a class above anyone that has been linked so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: No he isnt in my view, you dont get jobs at Chelsea or Schalke if your crap and you certainly don't win champions leagues He's dined out on the Champions League success but taking over with 3 months to go it isn't exactly his team! Rumours are the senior players picked the team and didn't get on with AVB so got their finger out when he went. We need a manager who is proven in building teams RDM isn't. He hasn't been at a club long enough to do it. I want Moyes especially under new owners but I'd be happy with Pearson who the owner is makes a big difference to who we can aim for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: No he isnt in my view, you dont get jobs at Chelsea or Schalke if your crap and you certainly don't win champions leagues he got Chelsea job the same way that Black got the Villa job and was no different except the players in dressing room like Drogba, Terry, Lampard and Cech ran it up with Riijkaard as managers who have achieved a lot with no ability 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, av1 said: You would think that if this takeover has been rumbling on for a while, the new owner/s would have his team in place already. I'd expect an appointment to be made pretty quickly after the takeover is concluded and I'd be absolutely over the moon if it were Moyes. I think he is a class above anyone that has been linked so far. Agree, I'd be shocked, surprised and over the moon. Think Moyes now has something to prove to a lot of people and could really get us going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Pat Murphy seemed to think that takeover and new manager would be announced at the same time. So probably not long till we can have the first [insert name here]OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest av1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: he got Chelsea job the same way that Black got the Villa job and was no different except the players in dressing room like Drogba, Terry, Lampard and Cech ran it up with Riijkaard as managers who have achieved a lot with no ability Agreed. For every Chelsea and Schalke fan you can find that were happy with him, you could find 10 baggies fans who were not. Now you might say that is irrelevant but getting the gig at VP is more akin to the remit at WBA rather than Chelsea. Absolute fraud of a manager who i fear would be an total disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The rumours that the Wyness is involved gives me more confidence that Moyes could be tempted. Sod it I'm going to check the odds and have a cheeky tenner on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, av1 said: Agreed. For every Chelsea and Schalke fan you can find that were happy with him, you could find 10 baggies fans who were not. Now you might say that is irrelevant but getting the gig at VP is more akin to the remit at WBA rather than Chelsea. Absolute fraud of a manager who i fear would be an total disaster. 25 minutes ago, Zatman said: he got Chelsea job the same way that Black got the Villa job and was no different except the players in dressing room like Drogba, Terry, Lampard and Cech ran it up with Riijkaard as managers who have achieved a lot with no ability You lot can be absolutely epic sometimes, 3- 11 teen = 7 type epic. Edited May 18, 2016 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: You lot can be absolutely epic sometimes, 3- 11 teen = 7 type epic. absolute no idea what that even means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, av1 said: The rumours that the Wyness is involved gives me more confidence that Moyes could be tempted. Sod it I'm going to check the odds and have a cheeky tenner on him. Moyes was 25-1 until yesterday. Most are offering 14-1 now, although Betfair may still be offering 20-1. Think these odds will continue to drop over the next few days, especially if Wyness is confirmed. It's exciting all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Moyes was 25-1 until yesterday. Most are offering 14-1 now, although Betfair may still be offering 20-1. Think these odds will continue to drop over the next few days, especially if Wyness is confirmed. It's exciting all of a sudden. Moyes has been described as many things, but "exciting" has certainly never come to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 43 minutes ago, Zatman said: he got Chelsea job the same way that Black got the Villa job and was no different except the players in dressing room like Drogba, Terry, Lampard and Cech ran it up with Riijkaard as managers who have achieved a lot with no ability Yeah only difference was eric black lost all his games barring one and RDM did very well in his. Sorry but for me its silly to describe the champions league win as not his team or he was lucky. it was against Munich in Germany, that alone is a tough task yet he did it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Moyes was 25-1 until yesterday. Most are offering 14-1 now, although Betfair may still be offering 20-1. Think these odds will continue to drop over the next few days, especially if Wyness is confirmed. It's exciting all of a sudden. Its surprising that Wyness is not pushing for him, IF Moyes is interested (which I dont think he is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Yeah only difference was eric black lost all his games barring one and RDM did very well in his. Sorry but for me its silly to describe the champions league win as not his team or he was lucky. it was against Munich in Germany, that alone is a tough task yet he did it. Also the it was Terry and Cech etc. comments are a bit weird. That level of anti-football catenaccio can only come from someone with a deep knowledge of Italian football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Moyes was 25-1 until yesterday. Most are offering 14-1 now, although Betfair may still be offering 20-1. Think these odds will continue to drop over the next few days, especially if Wyness is confirmed. It's exciting all of a sudden. you can get moyes at 36 on betfair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, romavillan said: Also the it was Terry and Cech etc. comments are a bit weird. That level of anti-football catenaccio can only come from someone with a deep knowledge of Italian football. come on, Chelsea have always played that way especially vs Barcelona under Mourinho and even Hiddink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Moyes has been described as many things, but "exciting" has certainly never come to mind. Sorry, just to clarify I was speaking in general terms, with the takeover etc. Not Moyes' personality! Would be one helluva coup to get him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: come on, Chelsea have always played that way especially vs Barcelona under Mourinho and even Hiddink I think its scandalous to say the players won it and the amanger had absolutely zero input in the win. How about we scrap the FA cup wins for Arsenal under Wenger over the last few years. Lets say Walcott and Giroud won them the cup and Wenger didnt against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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