Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: How are the wealthy becoming wealthy? In my experience it’s from working your ass off. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Mic09 said: I would add to that saying that that wealthy people usually create services and products (contradictory to some belief they do not swim in gold like duck mcscrooge), but they don't like paying tax. No one does. Any tax they pay is usually passed on to those less wealthy by increase of the costs of those services and products that they (wealthy people) create. Want to tax the rich more? Well, watch your prices go up. Wealthy people do not pay tax *like you and me do (edit) Yawn. Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Surely a guy like you must be part of that 1%? Me? I pay no income tax at the moment. ESA, unsurprisingly, is less than the personal allowance. Edited September 6, 2019 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Take it you’re broke? Actually, no. I've earned lots and I've earned peanuts. Depends where mood and circumstance take me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: In my experience it’s from working your ass off. Or inheriting wealth. But our example stipulates the former, in which case you are 100% correct. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Or inheriting wealth. But our example stipulates the former, in which case you are 100% correct. My experience of wealthy people that I know is they have worked very hard to earn their money. I’m not sure why people found that post so funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: My experience of wealthy people that I know is they have worked very hard to earn their money. I’m not sure why people found that post so funny. Brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, snowychap said: Brilliant. I honestly don’t get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Ok people laughing at my posts and I have no idea why. Kinda feel like I’m being bullied now lol. Goodnight all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Ok people laughing at my posts and I have no idea why. Kinda feel like I’m being bullied now lol. Goodnight all. There is a wide spread belief that claiming that people of wealth are bad and people who are poor are good somehow makes you a better person. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, Mic09 said: There is a wide spread belief that claiming that people of wealth are bad and people who are poor are good somehow makes you a better person. What utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted September 7, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: My experience of wealthy people that I know is they have worked very hard to earn their money. I’m not sure why people found that post so funny. Not sure this explains other views, but whilst that may be true for some, it is certainly of true for all. Inherited wealth is by far the biggest problem and creates a sense of entitlement. Indeed some of the most prominent figures in the Brexit argument are good examples of this. Ok, this information from Wikipedia, so take with a pinch of salt, however provides decent summaries of their backgrounds: - Boris Johnson - son of upper middle class family. Raised by his mother and au pairs when he was younger, went to Eton College and Oxford University. Through family connections he obtained a job in the Times. Jacob Rees-Mogg - son of former editor of the Times newspaper, he was mainly raised by a nanny who now raises his own children. Had his first shares in a company when he was 10 years old, he went to Eton and Oxford as well. Nigel Farage - father of a stockbroker, attended Dulwich College (independent fee paying school), an early admirer of Enoch Powell following a visit to the school. Obtained a job in the city (following in his fathers footsteps). Dominic Cummings - attended Durham college (independent boarding school) and the Oxford University. Son of oil rig manager and special needs teacher, true, so probably the weakest of the points. However then of course you have Donald Trump, who is the prime example of entitled and borne out of family wealth (along with Clinton, Kennedy, Bush etc as well). Lost more money than he has made, he has zero concept of what a hard days work is like. So whilst there are many rich people who who worked to earn their money, there are many that haven’t. Unfortunately some of those are dictating how we leave the EU. Edited September 7, 2019 by cyrusr Pressed post halfway through typing by mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: In my experience it’s from working your ass off. Animal exploitation is certainly part of it historically, but less so than exploiting other people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr_Pangloss Posted September 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2019 Some people become wealthy by 'working their asses off', others inherit incredible amounts of wealth and connections which makes it all the more easier, others are simply accidents of birth and inherit wealth and do nothing to generate more, others are in the right place at the right time and rely on a lot of luck. Bottom line is that a lot wealthy people are not there by merit alone. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) You can not deny people respect if they are self made regardless of class. It does seem a lot of MPs and people in government have just been very lucky that they came from money . They have no idea how to relate to the British public. Edited September 7, 2019 by Rugeley Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Ok people laughing at my posts and I have no idea why. Kinda feel like I’m being bullied now lol. Goodnight all. Watch the Chris Rock joke about black athletes in America buying themselves spinners Working hard might make you rich, it won't make you wealthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted September 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Take it you’re broke? This was a really shitty thing to say to someone by the way. So what if he is? So what if I am? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 7, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said: You can not deny people respect if they are self made regardless of class. Utter nonsense, it depends what they did to get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: This was a really shitty thing to say to someone by the way. So what if he is? So what if I am? If you're not well off and object to wealth inequality,l it's because you're broke and jealous. If you are comfortable and object to wealth inequality, you're a hypocrite and a champagne socialist. Both groups should be ignored, everything is fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, bickster said: Utter nonsense, it depends what they did to get there Morally right of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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