sexbelowsound Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 People suggesting that not going is better need to realise that everyone already agrees with that. What I do not agree with as being a better option is staying after the game and protesting. Nobody in the media will take notice of that and it'll be easy for the club to just sweep it under the rug quietly. Walking out at a time symbolic to the club is the best option we have available to us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, pacbuddies said: Yea there are quite a few knob heads on there by the look of it. I said a few...after a quick scan of the posts it looks nearer 90% not in favour. Only a lot of them can't differentiate "lose" and "loose". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Bob Bhowmik @bobchuwah 14h14 hours ago @richardajkeys #AVFC protest definitely gathering pace & very professionally organised. Website in place, now this https://youtu.be/wk6RSkHwBKc View media 0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like View Tweet activity More User Actions Following Richard KeysVerified account@richardajkeys @bobchuwah Good luck to you all. It's a travesty what's been happening at your place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, StanBalaban said: Bob Bhowmik @bobchuwah 14h14 hours ago @richardajkeys #AVFC protest definitely gathering pace & very professionally organised. Website in place, now this https://youtu.be/wk6RSkHwBKc View media 0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like View Tweet activity More User Actions Following Richard KeysVerified account@richardajkeys @bobchuwah Good luck to you all. It's a travesty what's been happening at your place Blimey, does he think we have a female owner? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 59 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: People suggesting that not going is better need to realise that everyone already agrees with that. people need to realise there are thousands of people already doing that and its hardly been mentioned, our average attendance has dipped by around 6-8k in the last 5 years, the club has no doubt ran the data to see how that splits between ST holders etc but they'll never release data to the press that says 2k people who have had season tickets for say 5 years + have walked away 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think the 'better fans' are good examples of how strange (and appealing) a business football must be. As an owner it must be great to know that no matter what you do there will always be a steady match-day revenue due to the connection between the fans and the players. What I fail to understand is why the playing and to some degree coaching staff are seen as distinct from the board and ownership, when they are in fact all one organisation. In my slightly hungover state I've come to the (unoriginal!) conclusion that the fan sees the player/board relationship as analogous to their own worker/management relationship, and so see themselves in the players or at least have a solidarity with them: this is maybe more true among older fans. This is perhaps why we see the recurring 'stay and support the lads' messages, or 'fight like lions' refraining throughout threads on social media. Though not directly said, it seems that turning the back on the players becomes turning the back on the fans, and as breaking the fan/player union in which we are all in this together. Yet, because football (at least at the elite level) has become so wealthy, the player/board relationship is no longer the same as it was when a lot of fans started supporting the club. The players are at a considerable remove from the fans primarily because of the money involved and the power that comes with it: power both in and out of the 'workplace'. To search for a solidarity with them is looking in the wrong place: the solidarity is with the other fans. The protest in turn, to my mind at least, has become symbolic of the broken relationship between fan, player, and board that has been caused, in part, by the sheer wealth involved. Yep. Note: this is not really a comment on the specific campaign and its goals and objectives, just a reflection on some of what I've read in recent days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Some really silly fans in our fan base, seeing comments like dont desert your team. Ok lets keep getting spanked 40, 6-0 and bury our heads in the sand. Absolute credit to the organisers and everyone behind this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) those fans are just pure goldmine for owners, be a total clocksocket and still be rewarded with "loyal" customers who unquestioningly pay the premium ticket week after week. It's a business like any other, and this mythos of the "uniqueness of football" only really serves the media and the clubs themselves. I know for many fans who go regularly regardless of results it can be more about the social element with friends etc, and that's all fair enough, but the particular fans who reject any idea of not going on the logic of "don't abandon yer team" etc is all bit mental to my eyes. Edited February 24, 2016 by Rodders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Have followed the twitter page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Hey guys, Can we get retweets the following, please... Thanks guys and gals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 A couple of comments that can/should be dismissed 1. Why more than one game? Surely one is enough as momentum might peter out after the Everton game. 2. Any plans to have people hand out flyers prior to the Everton game? Alot of fans on the night might not have heard of the protest and if they recieve a flyer explaining it and what's planned they might join in with the protest and leave on '74. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 44 minutes ago, Chewie said: Hey guys, Can we get retweets the following, please... Thanks guys and gals. Excellent work, suprised Collymores buried his head in the sand after all his fierce critism of the board. If he doesnt acknowldge this protest will lose all respect for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 i think this protest will be better not having Collymore anywhere involved, not the type of character we need involved in our club anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 24, 2016 19 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: suprised Collymores buried his head in the sand after all his fierce critism of the board. If he doesnt acknowldge this protest will lose all respect for him If he's kept your respect through all the woman beating, Fire extinguisher setting off, dogging and self publicising, then you're a kinder man than I am. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, blandy said: If he's kept your respect through all the woman beating, Fire extinguisher setting off, dogging and self publicising, then you're a kinder man than I am. There was one instance of him hitting a woman, and it was a long time ago as well. Everyone deserves a second chance. And honestly, letting off a fire extinguisher? Big deal. You really think that's something worth holding a grudge over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, blandy said: If he's kept your respect through all the woman beating, Fire extinguisher setting off, dogging and self publicising, then you're a kinder man than I am. #BeatThatWhoreOn74? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 There was one instance of him hitting a woman, and it was a long time ago as well. Everyone deserves a second chance. And honestly, letting off a fire extinguisher? Big deal. You really think that's something worth holding a grudge over? One instance of woman beating that hit the headlines. I haven't forgiven him for being a complete bellend when he was at VP. Stressed my arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2016 I detest Collymore. The only opinions that are valid are his and he'll block you for daring to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: I detest Collymore. The only opinions that are valid are his and he'll block you for daring to disagree. And he doesn't really want to actually go through with his options either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 You asked Dion Dublin if he fancied banging on his dube. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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