Popular Post Zatman Posted June 7, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2016 even if Richards and Lescott turn over a new leaf, I still wont forgive them for last season and still prefer they dont come back 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Zatman said: even if Richards and Lescott turn over a new leaf, I still wont forgive them for last season and still prefer they dont come back Me too. But money will talk - if it costs millions to get rid of them they'll inevitably be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) No excuse what to so ever to not even try when you are being paid £40-60k/w and is supposed to be a professional. Gabby, Lescott, (Bacuna,) Richards all have to go, no if's or but's Edit: could probably add Sinclair & Guzan to that list. Edited June 7, 2016 by sne 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, sne said: No excuse what to so ever to not even try when you are being paid £40-60k/w and is supposed to be a professional. Gabby, Lescott, (Bacuna,) Richards all have to go, no if's or but's This is the thing, clearly at some point these players were highly rated, wtf happened to them?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Tommo_b said: This is the thing, clearly at some point these players were highly rated, wtf happened to them?! Worked under poor managers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted June 7, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Tommo_b said: This is the thing, clearly at some point these players were highly rated, wtf happened to them?! They got older, richer, injured, lazier, and comfortable. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jon_c Posted June 7, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, sne said: They got older, richer, injured, lazier, and comfortable. Also they all think they're much better than they actually are. Richards actually seemed to think he was actually putting in full effort. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, jon_c said: Also they all think they're much better than they actually are. Richards actually seemed to think he was actually putting in full effort. The like of Sherwood also pandered to him by playing him at CB at his own request, despite the fact that he was utterly incompetent at it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 39 minutes ago, sne said: They got older, richer, injured, lazier, and comfortable. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Tommo_b said: This is the thing, clearly at some point these players were highly rated, wtf happened to them?! They arrived at a club where there was little competition for their places that allowed them to show their true colours. BUT - ultimately the solution is to be found in the culture at the club. We must rid ourselves of the tag that the club is a place you can get big deals and coast along. If that's your bait, don't be surprised at the fish you catch. I can't be 100% sure right now, but I think the new team of RDM and SC strike me as people who actually have a plan as to what they want and the kind of characters who can come in and deliver it. Moneyball might show you statistics, but vital qualities like character, determination and professionalism are not understood by a computer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, sne said: No excuse what to so ever to not even try when you are being paid £40-60k/w and is supposed to be a professional. Gabby, Lescott, (Bacuna,) Richards all have to go, no if's or but's Edit: could probably add Sinclair & Guzan to that list. What's worse is Gabby, Lescott and Richards are supposedly Villa fans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeilS Posted June 7, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Richards defends Dubai trip I was never a fan of Richards, but what finished him for me was his tweet defending the trip to Dubai. Saying "Don't tag me in your photos you clown, Excuse us for having a few days away after a long hard season". It was still March, the season doesn't end until mid May you prat. That says it all for me, the season was over in their minds by March. No fight, passion or pride. Get rid, he is done here! In reply to @jon_c Edited June 7, 2016 by NeilS 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) If we sign Bamford for £10m I'll be gutted. Not worth half that. Edited June 7, 2016 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, PieFacE said: If we sign Bamford for £10m I'll be gutted. Not worth half that. why gutted though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2016 Just now, Richard said: why gutted though? Because it would be a waste and we could spend the money much better. I guess I could have the opinion "well it's not my money so why should I care"... I used to do this when Randy Lerner started spending and look where that got us. I think signing a player for £10m who's never made any impression on the Premier League is way too much. I don't even think Bamford is a very good player, so signing him at all would disappoint me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy1874 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I am not sure on his abilities. Or should I say, I am just not aware of him much as a player. But £10m is completely and utterly ridiculous. Or maybe I am just saying that as I don't know much about him haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyavfc Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 From what I've read it seems to be a loan anyway. I also think the value of £10m is just lazy journalism which is being recycled from after he won player of the season in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 10 mill is a stupid amount for Bamford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 It's an inflated market at the moment. Lukaku £65M, Stones £40M, Dann £20M, are all fees I've seen mentioned in the media for players recently. Something we'd do well to remember when it comes to selling some of our own players. If Bamford's worth £10M then surely Ayew has to be worth close to £20M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted June 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2016 35 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Because it would be a waste and we could spend the money much better. I guess I could have the opinion "well it's not my money so why should I care"... I used to do this when Randy Lerner started spending and look where that got us. I think signing a player for £10m who's never made any impression on the Premier League is way too much. I don't even think Bamford is a very good player, so signing him at all would disappoint me. Whilst I don't think Bamford is worth £10mil I have to disagree with this point in bold. Gray, McCormack and Rhodes have never made an impression in the Premier League either and they've all scored bags of goals in the Championship. I'm not fussed about the BPL yet, let's just focus on getting out of the Championship for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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