Stevo985 Posted November 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2015 3 minutes ago, Brumerican said: You have billions of years experience at being dead . I doubt that was scary ? The not existing part is actually quite comforting . Yeah, I said that bit I don't find it comforting at all! I don't know about everybody else, but I quite like existing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah, I said that bit I don't find it comforting at all! I don't know about everybody else, but I quite like existing. Existing is alright I guess, but I kinda like knowing that it wont be forever . It makes you appreciate it a bit more . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Don't take this as morbid or depressing, cuz it's not meant to be. But there are sometimes when I wake up, and I think to myself, I'd have been happy just to stay asleep...forever. Maybe this belongs in the sleep thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 18, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2015 This thread is quite an interesting insight into people's personalities, not to mention their empathy or lack of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Here's something weird. It's probably due to me coming to terms with my own mortality in recent years, probably because both my parents have/had cancer (terminal in the case of my dad)... ... but I'm so scared of dying that I've pondered, on several occasions, whether it's a good thing to have children (eventually) because I'm just bringing them into the world for them to die. Wouldn't it be nicer for them not to have to go through that? Pretty **** up, and I've always decided I was wrong. But still. Edited November 18, 2015 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 18, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2015 Ooh no, I've never had that particular conversation with myself. I think we've all done a certain amount of philosophical musing about our own mortality, but I'd never not bring someone into the world just because they're sure to die at some point. Besides, life is the journey, not the destination (given that we know what the destination is). When I was younger I was terrified at the prospect of ever losing a parent, to the point where I genuinely wished that I'd be gone first to save me that pain. Not necessarily that I'd die young, but rather that they'd live a freakishly long time. 2015 saw to that goal and then some, and now I've a new, different, but no less visceral view on life. I think opinions on this thread will, quite understandably, be skewed by both age and personal experience, not to mention as I said above, personality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yup, we're all off to Morecambe Bay. Some are travelling in a limo, some in a wheelie bin . All you can do is enjoy the service stations and be considerate to other drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Here's something weird. It's probably due to me coming to terms with my own mortality in recent years, probably because both my parents have/had cancer (terminal in the case of my dad)... ... but I'm so scared of dying that I've pondered, on several occasions, whether it's a good thing to have children (eventually) because I'm just bringing them into the world for them to die. Wouldn't it be nicer for them not to have to go through that? Pretty **** up, and I've always decided I was wrong. But still. Yep, must admit I've thought similar things. Bring them into the world to likely watch everyone they love die then die themselves. Obviously it wouldn't put me off totally but it does cross my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongRiddims Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Here's something weird. It's probably due to me coming to terms with my own mortality in recent years, probably because both my parents have/had cancer (terminal in the case of my dad)... ... but I'm so scared of dying that I've pondered, on several occasions, whether it's a good thing to have children (eventually) because I'm just bringing them into the world for them to die. Wouldn't it be nicer for them not to have to go through that? Pretty **** up, and I've always decided I was wrong. But still. Yep, must admit I've thought similar things. Bring them into the world to likely watch everyone they love die then die themselves. Obviously it wouldn't put me off totally but it does cross my mind. I think the main problem there is over protection. Grieving is a fundamental part of life. You shouldn't be protecting someone from it. It's an important lesson to learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Very good film by Julien Temple on Wilko Johnson talking about the year he was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Gorgeously filmed and both moving and uplifting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06qqrk9/imagine-autumn-2015-5-the-ecstasy-of-wilko-johnson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 At least when I'm dead I'll stop having my weekends screwed by Aston Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 40 minutes ago, WooJung said: At least when I'm dead I'll stop having my weekends screwed by Aston Villa But there again you might be reincarnated as a bluenose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Just now, MakemineVanilla said: But there again you might be reincarnated as a bluenose. Let's hope the buddhists have got it all wrong then! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 5, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2015 Very good film by Julien Temple on Wilko Johnson talking about the year he was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Gorgeously filmed and both moving and uplifting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06qqrk9/imagine-autumn-2015-5-the-ecstasy-of-wilko-johnson Utterly brilliant film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Watched the Wilko film a couple of evenings ago, I thought it was close to perfection. If you liked the style of it, you should also take a look at 'Oil City Confidential' about the whole band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm terrified of the people I love dying but not about dying myself. Well, I'm scared of dying depending on how it happens but I'm not scared of death itself. What's to be scared of? You won't experience it because you'll be gone. It's a nice thought rather than a scary one. As I said, it's far worse to lose someone than to cease existing yourself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 When I was a teenager I nearly drowned.In fact I blacked out and got rescued by some people in a boat. 18 years ago I had a major operation and during the night the doctors called my wife and suggested she come streight in to the hospital as I was not expected to make it through to the morning.On both occasions I felt a great calm come over me, it was so calm that nothing mattered at all...nothing.I expect death to be like this,something that will be accepted calmly when the time comes.After these 2 episodes I dont fear death at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 On 11/18/2015 at 17:34, BOF said: When I was younger I was terrified at the prospect of ever losing a parent, to the point where I genuinely wished that I'd be gone first to save me that pain. Not necessarily that I'd die young, but rather that they'd live a freakishly long time. 2015 saw to that goal and then some, and now I've a new, different, but no less visceral view on life. This is one thing that I worry a lot about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 hour ago, PussEKatt said: When I was a teenager I nearly drowned.In fact I blacked out and got rescued by some people in a boat. 18 years ago I had a major operation and during the night the doctors called my wife and suggested she come streight in to the hospital as I was not expected to make it through to the morning.On both occasions I felt a great calm come over me, it was so calm that nothing mattered at all...nothing.I expect death to be like this,something that will be accepted calmly when the time comes.After these 2 episodes I dont fear death at all. they do say cats have nine lives so you have another seven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 My Nan is nearing 90, and has dementia. She has falls constantly - several times a week - and recently spent a night in A & E with a severe head wound. She has little to no bowel control, and enough sense in her head to consciously know how little sense she makes. My friend's Nan is the same age. She had a massive stroke about 5 years ago, totally debilitating, but it didn't finish her off. She's been bed-bound ever since, barely able to speak. Now, my Grandad died a few years ago. It was a summer evening, right about sunset, and he strolled out to look at his runner beans, had an enormous heart attack and keeled over dead in the middle of the garden he loved. See, it's not death I worry about, it's being helpless and incapacitated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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