Mantis Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The whole thing is beginning to stink of the complete mess they made during the Houllier appointment.An extra three weeks delay is not really something we should even be considering. Either he wants it, or he doesn't. End of. What? Sherwood's been gone for 3 days FFS. My comment is on the Sky report regarding being three weeks without a manager.Are you of the opinion that should this report be correct (which let's face it would be a surprise) that three weeks, with the club where it is, with the amount of points it has, is an OK time to spend waiting for someone with no experience of managing in the situation we find ourselves in?I hate to break it to you but Sky Sports isn't gospel. Let's wait and see first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It's no good asking me......I wanted o'neill and Sherwood.unless you listen to the interviews how on earth can you tell....unless it's just gut feeling and what help is that.i really hope they get it right this time.....I just hope the importance of this next appointment us put in to some perspective at board level......and if they know they have the right man ear marked, don't let him slip.don't spoil the ship for a ha' Penth of tar. if he's the right man get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Why can't he come on his own, if he is this great why not employ other back room staff, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjenkins Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Why can't he come on his own, if he is this great why not employ other back room staff,To be fair, there is a very distinct possibility whoever takes this job now could have a relegation on their CV come May.If it was me, I would want every assurance that I had everything I need to make sure that doesn't happen. If for Garde that means bringing in staff he trusts, it seems pretty reasonable to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted October 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) When Ron Saunders was appointed....he wanted his back room staff of Barton and mclaren...thank god......Ron was not a popular choice IIRC. What do we know.we have no idea who the right man is........a lot of luck is involved.The fans have no idea......let's let them that get paid handsomely......make the decision.its our job to support.....not appoint. Edited October 28, 2015 by TRO 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 This is turning into a complete pantomime again. We are bottom of the league with a very poor squad.So what do we do go looking for a French manager who has a modest reputation in France.Why we would risk the future of our club like this? Why haven't we approached David Moyes or Brendan Rodgers who have worked in the English premier successfully .in my opinion the route we are taking is high risk gamble that we do not have to take!!!It's not a pantomime yet! No one knows if we haven't already approached Moyes, Rogers or whoever, It's all speculation at the moment. Both may have turned us down for all anyone knows.For the record Garde doesn't have a modest reputation in France. Looking at reports his reputation is of a quality tactician who has a habit(however early into his career) of getting the best out of youth and stabilising a team. Exactly what we need imo. Whether that person is French, Italian, German or British etc is completely irrelevant at this point in time. British managers haven't exactly lit up VP with their brand of football in recent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The whole thing is beginning to stink of the complete mess they made during the Houllier appointment.An extra three weeks delay is not really something we should even be considering. Either he wants it, or he doesn't. End of. What? Sherwood's been gone for 3 days FFS. My comment is on the Sky report regarding being three weeks without a manager.Are you of the opinion that should this report be correct (which let's face it would be a surprise) that three weeks, with the club where it is, with the amount of points it has, is an OK time to spend waiting for someone with no experience of managing in the situation we find ourselves in?I hate to break it to you but Sky Sports isn't gospel. Let's wait and see first.If you had actually read my post, you'd know you wouldn't be breaking it to me.Thanks for not answering my question though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Why can't he come on his own, if he is this great why not employ other back room staff,Ridiculous logic.This isn't FM. Edited October 28, 2015 by StefanAVFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 This thread is starting to make me all like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It's the most important appointment in a football club.lets hope the determination to get the right man, reflects this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackbauer24 Posted October 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2015 I think the key issue in people's concern in any prolonged wait is why sack Sherwood when we did? Fair enough if talks have progressed and it's all a relative matter of formality but if you're sacking the current manager knowing you can't get in a replacement pretty quickly then it seems pretty silly to me. Worse still is the idea that he was just sacked with no plan with what's next.Having Sherwood in charge for an extra three games rather than a caretaker makes much more sense, for a start at least there is ome continuity. The main reason for people's clamour for Sherwood to be sacked was so change could take place asap, that doesn't happen with a caretaker manager in place. In fact it often makes things worse. A caretaker manager should over see a game at most.And based on tonight's team selection, Sherwood wouldn't have done any worse! If there isn't someone new in place by Monday then I think that does show some failings at Villa/ by Tom Fox. We should only sack a manager if someone else is relatively close to coming in or the limbo state is just as damaging as an underperforming manager. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Mcinally talking some utter shite on SSN, moaning about young English managers not getting a chanceSaid it before and will no doubt say it again, people who don't watch us every week with an opinion that's not based on the football we were playing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 We need someone quick, Cant have Hendrik Almstadt and Paddy Reilly picking anymore team selections like tonights game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The whole thing is beginning to stink of the complete mess they made during the Houllier appointment.An extra three weeks delay is not really something we should even be considering. Either he wants it, or he doesn't. End of. What? Sherwood's been gone for 3 days FFS. My comment is on the Sky report regarding being three weeks without a manager.Are you of the opinion that should this report be correct (which let's face it would be a surprise) that three weeks, with the club where it is, with the amount of points it has, is an OK time to spend waiting for someone with no experience of managing in the situation we find ourselves in?I hate to break it to you but Sky Sports isn't gospel. Let's wait and see first.If you had actually read my post, you'd know you wouldn't be breaking it to me.Thanks for not answering my question though. What's the point in answering a question which is purely speculation? It's been 3 days not 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The whole thing is beginning to stink of the complete mess they made during the Houllier appointment.An extra three weeks delay is not really something we should even be considering. Either he wants it, or he doesn't. End of. What? Sherwood's been gone for 3 days FFS. My comment is on the Sky report regarding being three weeks without a manager.Are you of the opinion that should this report be correct (which let's face it would be a surprise) that three weeks, with the club where it is, with the amount of points it has, is an OK time to spend waiting for someone with no experience of managing in the situation we find ourselves in?I hate to break it to you but Sky Sports isn't gospel. Let's wait and see first.If you had actually read my post, you'd know you wouldn't be breaking it to me.Thanks for not answering my question though. What's the point in answering a question which is purely speculation? It's been 3 days not 3 weeks.What's the point in answering a question which is purely speculation? It's been 3 days not 3 weeks.Just wondered what your opinion on it would be should the report be correct, seeing as this is a discussion board and you felt strongly enough to reply to me in such a slightly put out way with what I'd said. Doesn't matter though if you don't wish to share your opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Ok - that multiquote turned into just a series of lines for me to scroll through on my phone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Why can't he come on his own, if he is this great why not employ other back room staff,Ridiculous logic.This isn't FM.Why can't he come on his own, if he is this great why not employ other back room staff,Ridiculous logic.This isn't FM.Why can't he come on his own, if he is this great why not employ other back room staff,Ridiculous logic.This isn't FM.Ok let's wait and give the teams above a bit more of a head start, normally when you sack someone in this business you have some one in the wings ready to step in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Lets put a rush on that manager eh Mr Fox/Lerner, before the damage becomes irreversible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Need a manager in pretty quickly.Some proper coaching sessions are needed before the fixtures coming up, not looking forward to Monday at all as it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Get him in the dressing room now, sort out the staff as we go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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