Popular Post chrisp65 Posted June 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2016 fair play to Cameron, there can't be many people that have **** a dead pig in front of witnesses as the second worst decision they've ever made 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 It terms of winning a GE it would be a terrible move in my opinion to select a pro exit prime minster. If the exit goes well, Europe won't be an issue you can campaign on. If it goes badly to brexit campaigners will get blamed. On top of that you start with a leader, that starts with 49% of the population won't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2016 I think that maybe Boris suddenly doesn't want it anymore. My dark horse would have been Chris Grayling, but I think it'll be Margaret Hilda May. The really funny thing is birdbrain Nicky Morgan fancying her chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 26 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I think that maybe Boris suddenly doesn't want it anymore. My dark horse would have been Chris Grayling, but I think it'll be Margaret Hilda May. The really funny thing is birdbrain Nicky Morgan fancying her chances. Chris Grayling just seems a bit of a wet blanket, I can't see it being him. I might put a fiver on Priti Patel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 26, 2016 32 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I think that maybe Boris suddenly doesn't want it anymore. Boris wants it, I'm guessing he doesn't want it right now whilst it's likely to burn his hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: I think that maybe Boris suddenly doesn't want it anymore. I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories, but just a few months ago Boris thought we should remain in the EU. So my very first thought when he joined the leave campaign was that Boris very much saw it as a head to head fight with Cameron, and a way of firmly positioning himself for leadership. I would be staggered if Boris didn't throw his hat in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Gove all the way where as Boris will have as many enemies as backers , Gove is well liked and respected by just about everyone , apart from people on VT of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 38 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Gove is well liked and respected by just about everyone , apart from people on VT of course And the teachers, they absolutely despise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Quote Gove is well liked and respected by just about everyone They have to say that otherwise he'd set his wife on them. Edited June 27, 2016 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 35 minutes ago, jon_c said: And the teachers, they absolutely despise him. you mean the militant left wing teachers brainwashing our children there was some support for Gove within the teaching industry , though nowhere near as much as the despise brigade admittedly , I wonder if teaching wasn't quite so unionised and a labour government had implemented his changes , would it have been less hostile ? doesn't make the policy any less a bad idea ( tbh I don't really know if was a good or a bad idea ) , but sometimes in order to change there has to be a willingness to accept change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 In all fairness Tony, the overriding impression I get from everyone is that Gove is a clearing in the woods. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AshVilla Posted June 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) No to Stephen Crabb for next PM It would be nothing more than a sideways step Edited June 27, 2016 by AshVilla 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I see the 1922 committee have effectively told Cameron that they don't want him hanging about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2016 I presume Cameron's response was a snigger and 'Don't worry, I shan't' and a plan to spend the next 3 months unsubtly throwing his colleagues and usurpers under the bus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Chindie said: I presume Cameron's response was a snigger and 'Don't worry, I shan't' and a plan to spend the next 3 months unsubtly throwing his colleagues and usurpers under the bus. And Osborne 'There won't be an emergency budget after all, we will wait until the Autumn'. Good luck to whoever takes over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I wonder if the Tories might reconsider the snap General Election if Corbyn stays. If they have a snap GE - Labour will perform very badly - Corbyn will go - and Labour get a new leader. If they hold on another 3 years - corbyn stays - and they will probably win in 3 years anyway - Thats 3 years of Corbyn destroying the main opposition party - and the tories are guaranteed around 8 years in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 28, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, hippo said: I wonder if the Tories might reconsider the snap General Election if Corbyn stays. If they have a snap GE - Labour will perform very badly - Corbyn will go - and Labour get a new leader. I wonder if the Tories might consider a referendum on Europe if Boris and Farage keep making noise - if they have a referendum, Leave will perform very badly - Boris and Farage will be finished and Cameron will be secure for years. These plans don't always follow the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 The thing which most people forget about Boris, is that he is not actually a toff and was a scholarship boy at Eton. His over the top toff act is obviously something he learned to put on to fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, MakemineVanilla said: The thing which most people forget about Boris, is that he is not actually a toff and was a scholarship boy at Eton. His over the top toff act is obviously something he learned to put on to fit in. Your not truly posh if you don't call your parents mater and pater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, MakemineVanilla said: The thing which most people forget about Boris, is that he is not actually a toff and was a scholarship boy at Eton. His over the top toff act is obviously something he learned to put on to fit in. Toff - a rich or upper class person. Don't mistake him being awarded a scholarship as evidence of him coming from the poor side of town. Even a cursory bit of research demonstrates the privilege he was born into. By no means born into an earldom but let's not rewrite history, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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