Rugeley Villa Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 7 hours ago, Genie said: The best quote I saw, which was aimed at a lot of the Tories of the time (Johnson, Truss, Mogg etc) was that they were “unembarrassable”. They seem incapable of being embarrassed by things they’ve said and done so they just go again day in, day out. Johnson has got a bit about him. Moggy has a bit of class and breeding about him, but Truss offers nothing . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 7 hours ago, Genie said: The best quote I saw, which was aimed at a lot of the Tories of the time (Johnson, Truss, Mogg etc) was that they were “unembarrassable”. They seem incapable of being embarrassed by things they’ve said and done so they just go again day in, day out. The word they were looking for there is “shameless”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xann Posted August 15 Popular Post Share Posted August 15 8 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Johnson has got a bit about him. Moggy has a bit of class and breeding about him, but Truss offers nothing . All scum. Morons and mugs thought otherwise. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Xann said: All scum. Morons and mugs thought otherwise. JRM wouldn’t give a commoner the steam off his piss. Also made a fortune out of Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted September 4 Moderator Share Posted September 4 If only that last line was permanent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 4 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4 Just now, bickster said: If only that last line was permanent Beat me to it by mere seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Wow, the numbers of votes compared to last time. Shows how much the party has been decimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted September 4 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4 Also shows how split the party is pretty split as to the way forward they want to take. Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Have enjoyed not having to listen to these bastards but have recently tuned into the leadership race and well, what a laugh. I was expecting 'some' attempt at a change of direction from the offer which failed at the election, but they've only gone and double/tripled down. Clearly it's a race to get the membership elect you, then you can implement what you want. However, I can't see a Starmer style sleight of hand, if you get the rabid gammons to put you in, they will tear you apart if you give them something else. In short, the tories are still buggered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 The only bit I’ve seen so far, was Cleverly pledging that if he becomes leader and wins an election in 5 years time, he would reinstate the Rwanda deal. They are determined to give that country as much free money as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 41 minutes ago, Jareth said: Have enjoyed not having to listen to these bastards but have recently tuned into the leadership race and well, what a laugh Two very gratifying things are (a) the realisation of how few of the buggers there are now. Sunak got 88 votes in the first round last time, and the person in sixth got more than Jenrick's first place total this time. And (b) how they are still splitting pretty much 50/50 between completely nuts and only partially nuts. Just like before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 5 Moderator Share Posted September 5 Tories are going to elect a Tory. What I was saying ages before the General Election still applies They are killing themselves, the only thing that has changed is the rise of Reform (especially amongst the young) I still see the death spiral of the Tory Party. The first leader elected will be sitting on a poisoned throne (a la William Hague), they'll still be dealing with infighting even though they have severely curtailed numbers as the initial round of voting shows The second leader won't get elected until after the next election at which point I still think the LibDems will potentially overtake them because of a variety of reasons including demographics As far as the leadership election goes, it's really a battle between Badenoch and Cleverly to come second and either way both of them will lose to Jenrick. Jenrick has plenty of skeletons in the cupboard. This Tory party will still be unelectable in 5 and 10 years time IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, bickster said: As far as the leadership election goes, it's really a battle between Badenoch and Cleverly to come second and either way both of them will lose to Jenrick. I mean, some of us were saying this two months ago while others were saying it was all about Tugendhat and how Cleverley had no chance. (winky face) I reckon Badenoch would still beat Jenrick with the members pretty easily. And I think Jimmy Dimmly would stand a pretty decent chance too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 5 Moderator Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I reckon Badenoch would still beat Jenrick with the members pretty easily. And I think Jimmy Dimmly would stand a pretty decent chance too. I remain to be convinced on that. In some respects, I hope you're right because she's batshit crazy and doesn't really play well with anyone outside of certain RW bubbles but from my POV it doesn't really matter. It'll still be someone completely unpalatable whoever it is. I'm not really paying it that much attention if I'm completely honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted September 5 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: The only bit I’ve seen so far, was Cleverly pledging that if he becomes leader and wins an election in 5 years time, he would reinstate the Rwanda deal. They are determined to give that country as much free money as possible. ...only to recycle it into sponsorship for Arsenal. I smell a rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted September 5 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5 42 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I mean, some of us were saying this two months ago while others were saying it was all about Tugendhat and how Cleverley had no chance. (winky face) I reckon Badenoch would still beat Jenrick with the members pretty easily. And I think Jimmy Dimmly would stand a pretty decent chance too. I think you're probably right on either having a decent chance on beating Jenrick with the members. The man is utterly harmless and graceless -and I say mean even in comparison to Cleverly and Badenoch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 5 Moderator Share Posted September 5 50 minutes ago, one_ian_taylor said: I think you're probably right on either having a decent chance on beating Jenrick with the members. The man is utterly harmless and graceless -and I say mean even in comparison to Cleverly and Badenoch. I presume that is a typo and you mean charmless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted September 5 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5 9 minutes ago, bickster said: I presume that is a typo and you mean charmless You presume correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, bickster said: Tories are going to elect a Tory. What I was saying ages before the General Election still applies They are killing themselves, the only thing that has changed is the rise of Reform (especially amongst the young) I still see the death spiral of the Tory Party. The first leader elected will be sitting on a poisoned throne (a la William Hague), they'll still be dealing with infighting even though they have severely curtailed numbers as the initial round of voting shows The second leader won't get elected until after the next election at which point I still think the LibDems will potentially overtake them because of a variety of reasons including demographics As far as the leadership election goes, it's really a battle between Badenoch and Cleverly to come second and either way both of them will lose to Jenrick. Jenrick has plenty of skeletons in the cupboard. This Tory party will still be unelectable in 5 and 10 years time IMO. I think that's wishful thinking on your part. The Conservative party have been around since the year dot and the liberals/ lib dems haven't been the alternative since the early 1900s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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