bickster Posted October 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, KentVillan said: That one mention of “online identifiers” in GDPR carries a lot of weight, and GDPR / EPD are designed as interlocking pieces of legislation anyway. Yes but the point is, doing away with the GDPR will not stop cookie notices, the notices themselves are part of the EPD not the GDPR I deal with this daily in work. The government as usual are talking out of their hoop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 TMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, mjmooney said: TMA Theresa May's arse? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 One hundred days ago Quote Boris Johnson has said he is "actively thinking" about a third term, amid criticism of his leadership. The prime minister was asked if he would like to serve a full second term in office - to 2028 or 2029. "At the moment I'm thinking actively about the third term and what could happen then, but I will review that when I get to it," he told reporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jareth said: Theresa May's arse? Too Many Acronyms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: She’s performing EXACTLY as expected. Same for Boris when he was elected. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: She’s performing EXACTLY as expected. Same for Boris when he was elected. I don’t trust them to close ranks when it gets to the crunch. I’ll believe that when I see it. However this is going much worse and quicker than I expected, not that I am complaining 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Panto_Villan Posted October 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, bickster said: ICO fees are buttons. PRS licences cost more. There is no masses of red tape. It's a simple form, you fill it in once and the licence just recurs every year The idea that ICO fees are onerous and involve lots of red tape are quite frankly utter bollocks. I run a small business that has message boards that technically fall under the ICO and I’d love to not have to pay £50 a year or whatever and spend half an hour filling in stupid forms for no reason. I’m quite tempted to shut the message boards down because I can’t really be arsed with the extra admin and cost, it’s just so needless. Of course it’d be much more efficient overall to just stop posting on Villatalk and do more work in that time instead - but we all know that’s not going to happen. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) I am genuinely shocked the wheels are coming off this quickly. I thought the public would turn on them much more before they turned on each other. She clearly doesn’t understand how politics and the media work. She’s generated a negative headline here for no reason. Yes, of course I trust the chancellor = end of story. Edited October 4, 2022 by Genie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, bickster said: Yes but the point is, doing away with the GDPR will not stop cookie notices, the notices themselves are part of the EPD not the GDPR I deal with this daily in work. The government as usual are talking out of their hoop. Yeah I mean my point wasn't related to whether the govt were talking any sense (as I said, should be reformed at the EU level, with UK inside the EU). As to you dealing with this daily in work. So do lots of people, that's the nature of such a big piece of all-encompassing legislation. The problem is the effort required to understand it for, in many cases, relatively little impact. IMO (I run a small B2B business and am the point of contact with the ICO), business / public sphere presences shouldn't qualify as "personal" data. It's an excessive definition of personal / private that gets in the way of everyday business. Of course there are provisions for "legitimate interest", but then you run into the issue of not being a legal professional, and not having the budget to pay someone who has legal expertise to make judgment calls. So if you are an ethical business you err on the side of caution. If you are an unethical business you just throw caution to the wind, knowing that the law is mostly not enforced (and probably unenforceable) at your level. That doesn't mean I have any sympathy with what the Tories are proposing. I was just saying that imo GDPR is well-intentioned, but poorly conceived / enforced, and needs reform. I'd rather that happened at the EU level. Edit: and to @Rds1983's point, yes there are loads of good, effective things in GDPR as well. Not denying that. Edited October 4, 2022 by KentVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, KentVillan said: I was just saying that imo GDPR is well-intentioned, but poorly conceived / enforced, and needs reform. I'd rather that happened at the EU level. I think it's more poorly funded on a national level (The ICO is by no means the worst funded national body but even so is chronically underfunded) than poorly conceived. If the funding was in place to enforce, the national bodies could start at the very top of the tree and compliance would fall into place further down the scale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: She got absolutely roasted in this interview. I could see her die inside when she was asked if she had a mortgage because she knew where it was going. Edited October 4, 2022 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, AshVilla said: She got absolutely roasted in this interview. Yep, like she does most times. The telling thing about that interview is the rapid blinking of the eyes. If it was a job interview, she's never get it. Blinking eyes like that are either a sign of lying or a sign of not being able to take the pressure. Either way, you're in the reject pile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, AshVilla said: She got absolutely roasted in this interview. I could see her die inside when she was asked if she had a mortgage because she knew where it was going. Here is that question. I know it’s going to be bad, but somehow I’m still surprised at how bad it is. Beth Rigby may as well have grown an extra head judging by Truss’ immediate reaction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 It's always good when governments wheels are falling off so hard you can literally hear it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 It’s a shame the clip/interview ended when it did. There was an obvious follow up to the comment “politicians don’t set interests rates”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Here is that question. I know it’s going to be bad, but somehow I’m still surprised at how bad it is. Beth Rigby may as well have grown an extra head judging by Truss’ immediate reaction. She's almost the opposite of Boris in interviews. Boris seemed like he didn't think and just said stupid stuff that would come back to bite him. Truss seems to be so worried about doing something like that that she ends up saying nothing at all. It's so awkward. I'm not sure what is worse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I’m almost willing Truss to tell small lies to make it less awkward to watch. Not answering the questions about trusting Kwarteng or renewing her mortgage made it painful viewing for not real benefit. Yes, I trust the chancellor. No, I have not renewed my mortgage recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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