meregreen Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 The last thing the armed forces want, is recruits who don’t want to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 18 hours ago, mjmooney said: The difference now is in the utter uselessness of their main players. Back in the day, they were never nice people, and they always stood for a political philosophy which I detested. But the likes of Macmillan, Heath, Heseltine, Hurd, Clarke, Major - yes, even Thatcher - had a degree of intelligence and competence in implementing their nasty policies. Even a slightly warped sense of honour. The current lot are not merely nasty, they're blatantly corrupt, downright thick and laughably inept. I have little hope that Labour will be much better, but I fervently want to see the demise of this despicable bunch. Cummings and Boris made sure that any decent human beings were removed from the party. Brexit meant only the lunatics could fully advance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I don’t think some sort of civic service is a bad idea, I think everyone sees this as army conscription which is why it stinks, but if it’s the odd weekend with the RNLI or with assisting charities etc then it could be attractive. It can’t be compulsory though, that’s ridiculous from the party who believe in choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 32 minutes ago, Jareth said: I don’t think some sort of civic service is a bad idea, I think everyone sees this as army conscription which is why it stinks, but if it’s the odd weekend with the RNLI or with assisting charities etc then it could be attractive. It can’t be compulsory though, that’s ridiculous from the party who believe in choice. 800,000 18 year olds, can’t work on weekends and can’t go see their parents after a week in Uni and can’t play for a sports team on a Saturday and now require, what shall we say 60,000 volunteer co-ordinators that do work weekends. it’s brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: 800,000 18 year olds, can’t work on weekends and can’t go see their parents after a week in Uni and can’t play for a sports team on a Saturday and now require, what shall we say 60,000 volunteer co-ordinators that do work weekends. it’s brilliant. "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God" Churches up and down the land telling their congregations not to vote Tory due to their anti-Christian policies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 26 Moderator Share Posted May 26 Man with inappropriate surname suggests that young people need to get out of their bubble whilst sitting in the worst impenetrable bubble known to Uk political history. Armando has given up on his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted May 26 Administrator Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God" Churches up and down the land telling their congregations not to vote Tory due to their anti-Christian policies. Probably true, even though churches don't observe the Sabbath, but the Lord's Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CarryOnVilla Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 national service ended 1963 Isn’t odd that most people who want national service back, never did it themselves. Also if they were young enough to do it now, they wouldn’t want to do it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 How does this idea compare to the Swiss national service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) Is it a way of clawing some votes back from Reform, rather than Labour? Edited May 26 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 13 minutes ago, Genie said: Is it a way of clawing some votes back from Reform, rather than Labour? Have they accepted that they are toast and this is damage limitation? Accept they can't win new or swing voters but stop the votes leaking to Reform which could potentially cost them even more seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted May 26 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26 13 hours ago, sidcow said: Tories to bring back National Service. I was going to vote Labour, but **** it. That's swayed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, Danwichmann said: Have they accepted that they are toast and this is damage limitation? Accept they can't win new or swing voters but stop the votes leaking to Reform which could potentially cost them even more seats? That’s what I thought. They have switched the fight from winning, to holding second place. They have suggested a policy which will get the throbbers rethinking whether to go Reform or Conservative (rather than Labour or Conservative). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Turns out that Tory ministers were not just rejecting national service in Parliament on *Thursday*, but going into detail about why it'd be a terrible idea. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 26 Moderator Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, stuart_75 said: How does this idea compare to the Swiss national service? The Swiss who are rather famous for not going to war? But all have guns under their beds in case they get invaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted May 26 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26 50 minutes ago, Genie said: That’s what I thought. They have switched the fight from winning, to holding second place. They have suggested a policy which will get the throbbers rethinking whether to go Reform or Conservative (rather than Labour or Conservative). Except even Farage has said he thinks it's a stupid idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, one_ian_taylor said: Except even Farage has said he thinks it's a stupid idea Well yes, it’s another failed plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 26 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26 It's like they're trolling themselves right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted May 26 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26 3 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said: national service ended 1963 Isn’t odd that most people who want national service back, never did it themselves. Also if they were young enough to do it now, they wouldn’t want to do it either. My dad did it and he firmly believes that it would be a wonderful thing to bring back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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