Stevo985 Posted June 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, av1 said: The dragon has already started that line. BBC Rwanda policy: Suella Braverman says plan to stop the boats is being held back And waiting lists can't be halved because of the strikes. It's all everybody else's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted June 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2023 The seemingly endless escalation of incompetence in the office of the Prime Minister we saw from May, to Johnson to Truss is nothing compared to the seemingly endless escalation of evil that we've seen in the Home Office from May, to Patel to Braverman. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 29, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, ml1dch said: That’s two things he’s best at out of all the MPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 May now looks like semi competent leader compared to what followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The seemingly endless escalation of incompetence in the office of the Prime Minister we saw from May, to Johnson to Truss is nothing compared to the seemingly endless escalation of evil that we've seen in the Home Office from May, to Patel to Braverman. I think they have completely misread the room on the Rwanda thing though, barely anyone thinks it’s a good idea but they are relentlessly pushing it. I guess it’s because they don’t have any other ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2023 They are just absolutely exhausting aren’t they? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2023 29 minutes ago, Genie said: I think they have completely misread the room on the Rwanda thing though, barely anyone thinks it’s a good idea but they are relentlessly pushing it. I guess it’s because they don’t have any other ideas. They've read the room exactly right. The only voice they are listening to are their members, their paymasters. The whole world knows they're losing the next election so they're not bothered what the electorate thinks, they just want to please the people who will put them forward as their candidate at the next election so they have to keep pushing the crazy policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 What is it that turned Braverman in to such a bitter nasty little person? Was it the immigrant parents? Was it the free university education? Or was it the 2 years she spent in France as part of the EU Erasmus scheme? Somebody that said their ‘dream’ was to deport people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 29, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 29, 2023 This Helen Wheatley MP on QT is hilariously bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: What is it that turned Braverman in to such a bitter nasty little person? Was it the immigrant parents? Was it the free university education? Or was it the 2 years she spent in France as part of the EU Erasmus scheme? Somebody that said their ‘dream’ was to deport people. Theres a universe, a good universe, a better universe, where this photo is followed by another taken a second later of her being Spartan kicked over the railing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, bickster said: This Helen Wheatley MP on QT is hilariously bad It shows you the lack of decent MP's/ministers in the Tories that she is often wheeled out. I can remember her frequently getting ripped a new one during interviews in the first few months of covid. She is a gift for opposition parties though. Edited June 29, 2023 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted June 29, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: What is it that turned Braverman in to such a bitter nasty little person? Was it the immigrant parents? Was it the free university education? Or was it the 2 years she spent in France as part of the EU Erasmus scheme? Somebody that said their ‘dream’ was to deport people. Strictly speaking she said her dream was to see The Torygraph front page reporting that people had been deported. Which to me suggests she all in on this for her own promotional purposes. And that's even worse. She's a gaping arsehole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted June 29, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: It shows you the lack of decent MP's/ministers in the Tories that she is often wheeled out. I can remember her frequently getting ripped a new one during interviews in the first few months of covid. She is a gift for opposition parties though. She's that one person every friend group has who is so gullible you can tell them anything on a night out and they'll completely believe you. Except right now she's surrounded by evil sociopaths instead of people telling her sweetbread is a type of cake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted June 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2023 Nail firmly on head. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 30, 2023 Fiona Bruce said something last night on QT to Rosena Allin-Khan which was quite unusual it was along the lines of… ”Very soon, in the next year or so, Labour will be in power, so what are Labour going to do…” It wasn’t expect to be in power, hope to be in power it was will be in power. Now obviously she'll get told off by the producers and it was a bit of a slip up on the old bias-o-meter but it also went unchallenged like it was some sort of universal truth. It’s a little thing but it does show how people currently think that it didn’t raise an eyebrow, from anyone Also, the terribly patronising woman from Tufton St was awful but even she didn’t try to justify the Rwanda policy, she was against it. She was also very bad at trying to explain why a Nationalised Water industry was bad. When you consider the way that QT audiences are composed by the BBC and their in built bias towards the current government (whoever that is at the time) there weren't exactly many people planning to be Tory voters in that audience and for them to be seemingly totally in favour of water nationalisation and absolutely opposed to the immigration policy also says a lot about how public opinion has genuinely swung away from where it used to be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 8 hours ago, chrisp65 said: What is it that turned Braverman in to such a bitter nasty little person? Was it the immigrant parents? Was it the free university education? Or was it the 2 years she spent in France as part of the EU Erasmus scheme? Somebody that said their ‘dream’ was to deport people. My opinion is that if you’re a person of colour in a Tory party with a large number of people who you could kindly describe as a bit prejudice and if you were being unkind are outright racists there’s a temptation if you’re looking for approval that you have to prove your credentials. I think that’s what’s going on with people like braverman and Patel. They’ve got to work a little bit harder and be that much more extreme to be accepted into the club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Fight, fight etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Fight, fight etc. This is Lord Zac Goldsmith, Johnson ally, friend of Johnson's wife, recently enobled in Johnson's honours list and yesterday named in the Privileges Committee report as trying to interfere in the Johnson partygate probe in a co-ordinated attempt with other former ministers (Patel, JRM et al) As much as what he says is true, this government (as pointed out by an audience member on QT) is uninterested in doing anything about absolutely most things, apart from small boats unless they really have to He was absolutely fine with it two days ago but the day after he was named by the PC he's resigning.... hmmmm But yes, carry on fighting you bunch of arseholes, keep digging a bigger hole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, bickster said: This is Lord Zac Goldsmith, Johnson ally, friend of Johnson's wife, recently enobled in Johnson's honours list and yesterday named in the Privileges Committee report as trying to interfere in the Johnson partygate probe in a co-ordinated attempt with other former ministers (Patel, JRM et al) As much as what he says is true, this government (as pointed out by an audience member on QT) is uninterested in doing anything about absolutely most things, apart from small boats unless they really have to He was absolutely fine with it two days ago but the day after he was named by the PC he's resigning.... hmmmm But yes, carry on fighting you bunch of arseholes, keep digging a bigger hole Ordinarily I'd be really happy to have massive Tory in fighting but we've got massive structural problems in the country that as you point out rhe government isn't interested in fixing. I'm really not sure the country can wait 12 months for a change of government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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