Panto_Villan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: Cut taxes - that went really well last time Better value for state spending - £20b a month on loan interest which Sunak cocked up some time ago. Go for growth - that’s severely hampered by something which he strongly backed… They don’t have any tools or levers to pull to get them out of the mess they created themselves. Yeah, they’re screwed at this point. Sunak doing his best to be quietly competent is the best strategy that they have, but it’s just the least bad option and they’re still going to get an absolute drubbing in the general election. Anyone even remotely resembling a swing voter is utterly sick of the Tories by now. There’s no escaping that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: Yeah, they’re screwed at this point. Sunak doing his best to be quietly competent is the best strategy that they have, but it’s just the least bad option and they’re still going to get an absolute drubbing in the general election. Anyone even remotely resembling a swing voter is utterly sick of the Tories by now. There’s no escaping that. What would Thatcher have done? Artificially engineered a winnable war. I don't think that's an option this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sidcow Posted May 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2023 Solihull stays Conservative. Another bloody wasted vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Solihull stays Conservative. Another bloody wasted vote. Why do you consider it "wasted"? Is it a need to back a winner? No vote is really wasted as they all add up, especially when the statisticians do their post match analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Why do you consider it "wasted"? Is it a need to back a winner? No vote is really wasted as they all add up, especially when the statisticians do their post match analysis Waste of time might have been better. They've actually increased their Councillors. I know it's not a general election and people vote for different reasons, but really, after all that's happened. What a shit show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 A vote is only wasted when it’s not used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chrisp65 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said: A vote is only wasted when it’s not used. What about when you vote for a candidate and the party gave them no backing or promotion in the hope they would lose? And they did indeed go on to lose. That’s a pretty decent shout for a wasted vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Genie said: A bad day for the Tories in the usually blue Tamworth LOCAL ELECTION RESULTS ️Conservatives LOSE OVERALL CONTROL IN TAMWORTH️ Results by Wards for the local election in Tamworth. Amington - Labour Win Belgrave - Labour Win Bolehall - Labour Hold Castle - Labour Win Glascote - Labour Win Mercian - Labour Win Spital - Labour Win Stonydelph - Conservative Hold Trinity - Conservative Hold (just) Wilnecote - Labour Win Woo, I fall under the Castle area and am well chuffed with that. Sadly I think it’ll remain a Tory seat overall in the General Election next year, it’s always been a strong Conservative majority round here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Greens are doing ok here in Stafford, tory words removed pretending to be independents seem to have tricked people as well unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, SuperTed said: Woo, I fall under the Castle area and am well chuffed with that. Sadly I think it’ll remain a Tory seat overall in the General Election next year, it’s always been a strong Conservative majority round here. It’s difficult to predict. Mr Pincher will stand as independent I assume. His most loyal supporters will then split with who the Tories put against him. Could be an open goal for Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, sidcow said: Solihull stays Conservative. Increased Tories +2, lol. I'll have whatever they're drinking Side note - I grew up there (Shirley), and was lucky to as obviously it's affluent. But always thought people there were generally quite mean and small minded compared to other areas of Brum. Nowadays it's basically just assisted living homes for the elderly. I could never move back. Anyway, good day for despising the Tories eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, juanpabloangel18 said: Increased Tories +2, lol. I'll have whatever they're drinking Side note - I grew up there (Shirley), and was lucky to as obviously it's affluent. But always thought people there were generally quite mean and small minded compared to other areas of Brum. Nowadays it's basically just assisted living homes for the elderly. I could never move back. Anyway, good day for despising the Tories eh. Edited May 5, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Genie said: It’s difficult to predict. Mr Pincher will stand as independent I assume. His most loyal supporters will then split with who the Tories put against him. Could be an open goal for Labour. Bottom Pincher has said he won’t be standing again. Still happy to claim his salary until next May though despite the fact he’s figuratively gone underground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 The Tories have just lost Bromsgrove which is very careless of them. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Waste of time might have been better. They've actually increased their Councillors. I know it's not a general election and people vote for different reasons, but really, after all that's happened. What a shit show. Was just coming to post, Solihull went more Conservative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, juanpabloangel18 said: Increased Tories +2, lol. I'll have whatever they're drinking Side note - I grew up there (Shirley), and was lucky to as obviously it's affluent. But always thought people there were generally quite mean and small minded compared to other areas of Brum. Nowadays it's basically just assisted living homes for the elderly. I could never move back. Anyway, good day for despising the Tories eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2023 LibDems take Stratford-Upon_Avon from the Tories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2023 Mid Suffolk might be worth watching, Tory Party in danger of losing to Green Party. The council leader has already lost her seat and I make it 16 seats they've won there so far, which is way more than any of the others. (34 seats total - previously second placed with 12 councillors) In those wards they won so far, they are winning by HUGE margins and they aren't standing in every ward either, some wards are straight LibDem / Tory fights (no Labour either) EDIT: 17 Seats won after 21 declarations, they need 1 more seat from the remainder, it's not really in doubt now. The Green Party have a council to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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