ciggiesnbeer Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: It's hilarious how the right wing media have made themselves look foolish, first with Boris and now Truss. Wonder if their readers will ever care enough to stop reading. Indeed. Although to be fair The Times Radio youtube channel is pretty good. From a parliamentary historian "to have such contempt for the civil service , parliament and voters is unprecedented" Edited October 14, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Straggler said: Stunning isn't it. "We want a high growth economy." "But Brexit knocked 4% off GDP and is the biggest single impediment to growth." "Not that sort of growth." Not that growth is even the answer. You can't grow forever on a finite planet. It is the elephant in the room that the Brexit elephant is standing on. So true. Its Brexit. Its why I am now a single issue voter. I vote for whoever will get us back into the EU. Thats it. Edited October 14, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vancvillan Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Panto_Villan said: You can grow on a finite planet through productivity growth. You invent a combine harvester so harvesting wheat takes 1 man instead of 100. Then 99 people are free to do other things to improve society, and food gets cheaper for everyone, etc. Simplified example but “growth = bad” is equally simplistic. Making work more productive is always a worthwhile goal imo. She should have said that it's also down to the people - she needs more quality from her big hitters, some moments of magic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Vancvillan said: She should have said that it's also down to the people - she needs more quality from her big hitters, some moments of magic. In all seriousness her economic plan was basically that unfunded tax cuts would unleash those moments of magic within all of us (generally not how you achieve productivity growth). There was a funny article on the BBC today about Kwarteng saying how his recent time as energy secretary had opened his eyes to the value of state intervention, and turned him away from the path of being a hardcore free-marketeer. Christ knows what would have happened if we’d got the full-fat version of his economic plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 top tier headlining 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 10 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said: With Kwasi leaving this might just be the tip of the iceberg. Be interesting to see who actually romaines in the cabinet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wainy316 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, Rodders said: top tier headlining I’ve really warmed to the Daily Star recently, they’ve had a few outstanding headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: Some of these are pure gold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 hours ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Some of these are pure gold. ”It’s not a question of if, it’s a question of f**k off” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) (Sweary content, talking about Jeremy Hunt) Edited October 15, 2022 by ml1dch 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2022 15 hours ago, blandy said: Fast becoming a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, ml1dch said: Then again, it's not just that specifically. The emboldened bit could apply to loads of things that would help growth but are just unpalatable to Tory vermin. Legalisation and taxation of cannabis would bring in billions in revenue and create a whole new industry. Allowing asylum seekers to work while claims were processed would save money in handouts and fill labour shortages in crucial industries, as well as being a humane and decent thing to do. Weirdly I've not heard them suggested in Tory circles as helpful measures. Onshore wind. Investing directly in insulation, solar and heat pump installation and manufacturing. Investing in wind turbine manufacturing. There are entire industries you could build full of highly paid high tax paying jobs. But no, we'll ban onshore wind, ban tidal projects and allow fracking and invest billions hugely expensive nuclear built and run by foreign governments. Edited October 15, 2022 by sidcow 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, sidcow said: Fast becoming a legend. Who, Lycett? He's a bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, rjw63 said: Who, Lycett? He's a bellend. Well OK thanks for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Well OK thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Said it at the time but it used to wind me up, that people voted for tories but would still be out there clapping on a Thursday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2022 Most of the Tory papers have turned (even the Heil is looking sceptical), but the Excess is still desperately clinging to the 'Saint Maggie reborn' fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted October 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Said it at the time but it used to wind me up, that people voted for tories but would still be out there clapping on a Thursday. Disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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