sidcow Posted August 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2022 10 hours ago, MakemineVanilla said: As was quickly discovered, the scheme created the very opposite of what was purported, with the majority of children going to Secondary Modern schools, being taught almost nothing, as they were prepared to fufil their role in the labouring classes. You wanna be a van driver? Get your head out of the clouds dreamer. This school is not here to produce van drivers, this school is here to produce the people who carry the the things TO the vans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: You wanna be a van driver? Get your head out of the clouds dreamer. This school is not here to produce van drivers, this school is here to produce the people who carry the the things TO the vans. Micky Flanagan, great joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Dominic Raab attempting to put Government Ministers above the law. Restricting judicial reviews as to the legality of his and others actions. Worrying times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Seriously, what the actual shit is this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Seriously, what the actual shit is this? Neither candidate is reading the room on Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted August 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Neither candidate is reading the room on Brexit. They are reading the Tory members room which is the only room they are concerned with at the moment. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Neither candidate is reading the room on Brexit. At this point, they only need to read the room of their rabid base, and not the wider, voting public. Any promises made now will soon disappear come a GE if they're not vote winners. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, markavfc40 said: They are reading the Tory members room which is the only room they are concerned with at the moment. Shitter than it was before, but stubbornly refusing to admit it was a monumental mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 He's going to struggle to fill a cabinet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) On 08/08/2022 at 20:46, StanBalaban said: At this point, they only need to read the room of their rabid base, and not the wider, voting public. Any promises made now will soon disappear come a GE if they're not vote winners. Half of them will have died probably before they realise the winner has done **** all with their promises. Edited August 9, 2022 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, ml1dch said: He's going to struggle to fill a cabinet. From wiki Alcohol, sometimes referred to by the chemical name ethanol, is a psychoactive drug that is the active ingredient in drinks such as beer, wine, and distilled spirits (hard liquor). 19 minutes ago, ml1dch said: He's going to struggle to fill a cabinet. Yeah ... I was thinking of a drinks cabinet. Somebody should start a rumour he's planning on a new prohibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Need somebody with a pair of bollocks to sort all this shit out. Unfortunately we won't get anybody like that this side of the decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted August 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2022 Truss not going to share policy info with her rival in case he uses it himself. Sorry to tell you Liz, but 'f**k the poor' is already policy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Name Is Death Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) Says something when even Enoch Powell was a better politician than any of this shower. They barely meet the very low bar of being able to speak, let alone hold intelligent and compassionate positions. No budding Disraelis, Gladstones or Macmillans, or any Healeys, Foots or Attlees waiting in the wings to replace them. Have our politicians ever been so painfully average or incapable? Edited August 10, 2022 by His Name Is Death 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Name Is Death Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 It's pretty clear that, if one party proposed public ownership of utilities and the other didn't, the one that did would win the next general election. Yet neither will. Both will pretend it's unworkable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, His Name Is Death said: It's pretty clear that, if one party proposed public ownership of utilities and the other didn't, the one that did would win the next general election. Yet neither will. Both will pretend it's unworkable. I'd say that's far from clear. One party did that at the most recent election and got a pummelling. There are going to be other factors that come into play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Name Is Death Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I'd say that's far from clear. One party did that at the most recent election and got a pummelling. There are going to be other factors that come into play. I meant if one party should propose it now. All that was needed was for the matter of public utilities to, quite literally, hit home and begin to have emotional relevance to people's lives. People hearing such a proposal now would doubtlessly take it more seriously than they did when it was all about 'getting Brexit done' or doing everything in one's power to avoid a Corbyn leadership. Edited August 10, 2022 by His Name Is Death 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted August 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, His Name Is Death said: It's pretty clear that, if one party proposed public ownership of utilities and the other didn't, the one that did would win the next general election. Yet neither will. Both will pretend it's unworkable. In fairness, the country is flat broke after covid. I'm willing to change my mind in light of a good argument to the contrary, but I can't see how we could bring utilities under public ownership at the moment. I can't see how we as consumers would pay less, anyway, as the government would need to raise capital to compulsory purchase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, HKP90 said: In fairness, the country is flat broke after covid. I'm willing to change my mind in light of a good argument to the contrary, but I can't see how we could bring utilities under public ownership at the moment. I can't see how we as consumers would pay less, anyway, as the government would need to raise capital to compulsory purchase? The government is also getting a good slice of these multi-billion pound profits as it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, HKP90 said: In fairness, the country is flat broke after covid. I'm willing to change my mind in light of a good argument to the contrary, but I can't see how we could bring utilities under public ownership at the moment. I can't see how we as consumers would pay less, anyway, as the government would need to raise capital to compulsory purchase? Bringing utilities under public ownership isn't going to solve this anyway. The utility companies would still have to source their fuel to generate their power on the oil and gas exchanges It's the fuel extractors that are making all the money here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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