Davkaus Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Got an engineering masters don't you know. **** me she's useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jareth said: Dominic Cummings states Bozza wants Truss in, so that she will reliably blow up and he can sweep back into power. I wouldn't put it past the Tory members to vote him in again, maybe it gets so bad his MPs put him back on the ballot? DC probably talking shite, but it all sounds plausible given Bozza's character and his little hasta la vista exit. That's a very convoluted way of getting the job he already had, if it's true. He could have just been a less duplicitous clearing in the woods and avoided all this. He had the whole covid vaccine, furlough, Ukraine crisis to build goodwill with the people and **** it up at every stage because he's a compulsive liar. I'm hoping it's Truss as it will be the May disaster tripled and Labour will get a majority this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Got an engineering masters don't you know. **** me she's useless That was Badenoch For Truss it's actually worse, she has the Traditional MPs Oxbridge Degree, Philosophy Politics and Economics. It's like she learned absolutely nothing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Got an engineering masters don't you know. **** me she's useless. No that was Badenoch. Truss supposedly did an undergrad in philosophy and politics 🫢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, LondonLax said: No that was Badenoch. Truss supposedly did an undergrad in philosophy and politics 🫢 It's been a long day. Thanks for the correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted July 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2022 I'll field that one. No. No, she couldn't. 3 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I'll field that one. No. No, she couldn't I know why, Maggie was in Drag and May was an extra from Blade Runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: Im ready to burie myself underground if she is PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Imagine you were a bunch of tiny-penised Tory MPs (including Big Dinners), and you thought that your quirky "results at tea time" message should be accompanied by a picture of The Help serving tea to the tiny-penised men. I mean, I'm sure it's not malicious or anything. But surely it just shows that they are all tone-deaf simpletons who are terrible at...pretty much everything, including taking a photograph that doesn’t make them look like a 19th Century plantation owner? Spoiler The Help in question being Tory MP Nus Ghani, already most famous for accusing the party of sacking her from Government for being muslim Edited July 20, 2022 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussG Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Imagine you were a bunch of tiny-penised Tory MPs (including Big Dinners), and you thought that your quirky "results at tea time" message should be accompanied by a picture of The Help serving tea to the tiny-penised men. I mean, I'm sure it's not malicious or anything. But surely it just shows that they are all tone-deaf simpletons who are terrible at...pretty much everything, including taking a photograph that doesn’t make them look like a 19th Century plantation owner? Hide contents The Help in question being Tory MP Nus Ghani, already most famous for accusing the party of sacking her from Government for being muslim Absolute state of Gary Sambrook at the far right (convenient) there, embarrassing he serves a Birmingham ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2022 Any sense of how Sunak vs. Truss are differentiated vis à vis Putin & Ukraine issues? I've not been able to figure that out, try as I might. I know, I know -- "they're both horrendous" and "complete simpletons" etc etc. But still, one of them is coming for at least a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Any sense of how Sunak vs. Truss are differentiated vis à vis Putin & Ukraine issues? I've not been able to figure that out, try as I might. I know, I know -- "they're both horrendous" and "complete simpletons" etc etc. But still, one of them is coming for at least a few years. They'll basically carry on the same policy as long as there is a sympathetic headline by doing so. Truss will probably be a bit more visible in doing the same thing. But Sunak isn't going to suddenly change course. Edited July 20, 2022 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The tory membership have changed their minds on their favourite a few times during these hustings, understandably Mordor went off the boil the more they saw of her in debates. Is Truss certain of the Tory press support? She will be an unmitigated disaster at all times, whereas Rishi is so polished - I can see it swinging away from Truss as the weeks go by. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Any sense of how Sunak vs. Truss are differentiated vis à vis Putin & Ukraine issues? I've not been able to figure that out, try as I might. I know, I know -- "they're both horrendous" and "complete simpletons" etc etc. But still, one of them is coming for at least a few years. Truss I think much more prone to doing stupid stuff and getting high on the idea of being a “wartime leader”. Sunak more likely to press for a settlement, as it’s claimed he wasn’t convinced this was worth the global economic consequences. But not convinced the new PM actually has that much influence now the wheels are in motion and the US are leading the way. Think I’d prefer Sunak just because he’s never shown any interest in being a tough guy. Seems more grown up, and more naturally inclined towards diplomacy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The Tories are doing Labours work for them aren't they. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The Tory party MUST see the unfolding disaster that Truss will be. They do, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Truss I think much more prone to doing stupid stuff and getting high on the idea of being a “wartime leader”. Sunak more likely to press for a settlement, as it’s claimed he wasn’t convinced this was worth the global economic consequences. But not convinced the new PM actually has that much influence now the wheels are in motion and the US are leading the way. Think I’d prefer Sunak just because he’s never shown any interest in being a tough guy. Seems more grown up, and more naturally inclined towards diplomacy. That sounds very persuasive to me as analysis. It's for some of the very reasons you say that I feel more nervous about Sunak as PM, as I fear he'd cave too often, and Putin and Xi Jinping, to my mind, are just getting started in their efforts to dismantle western democracies. Would Truss be better or, rather, be able to convince others that she'd be the better player in some 20th century Thatcheresque/Churchillian "on the beaches" paradigm? She seems to think so, and that's kind of weird in itself. Her sartorial homage to Maggie doesn't make her Maggie as much as Maggie Baby. Besides, would Thatcher actually be able to cope with Russia today? I have my doubts. The Falklands and Argentina, after all, aren't a neofascist nuclear-armed Russian state, working around the clock to prop up strongmen across the globe, demonize LGBGT people, and rip apart democracies. So then ... I'm back to Sunak, and I just feel like I don't trust him to fight. What's better? To accommodate Putin, or to battle him badly? Neither seems like a good situation. This is why I feel extremely worried about your PM race. Please convince me I'm full of ****. I would welcome it. Edited July 20, 2022 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Genie said: The Tory party MUST see the unfolding disaster that Truss will be. They do, right? Can I point you in the direction of the last time they were allowed to pick a Prime Minister? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Can I point you in the direction of the last time they were allowed to pick a Prime Minister? He’s the reason not to go with “you never know” isn’t he. Tried it. failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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