bickster Posted July 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2022 And let's remember, this is a VONC that the government called itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 They decided had no confidence in Johnson itself, but not of the government. Guess that they are worried in losing their seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: They decided had no confidence in Johnson itself, No, they didn't. Johnson resigned before a second VONC in him was called. It's fairly obvious he would have lost a second VONC but it was never called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted July 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2022 the "Vote of Confidence" is utterly bizarre to be honest. Unnecessary and a complete waste of time. It actually allowed the opposition to air their views formally and has seemingly forced another MP losing the whip. The Tories seem to be intent on self-flagellation at the moment don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, cyrusr said: and has seemingly forced another MP losing the whip. There's no forced in that, absolutely nothing was forced on anyone. Johnson didn't have to remove the whip from Elwood, he wanted to in an act of revenge for Elwood's comments about Johnson recently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted July 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, bickster said: There's no forced in that, absolutely nothing was forced on anyone. Johnson didn't have to remove the whip from Elwood, he wanted to in an act of revenge for Elwood's comments about Johnson recently Ah that makes sense - vengeance by Johnson makes a lot of sense. It would be nice to have a government that actually runs the country instead of playing oneupmanship with its own party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Ah that makes sense - vengeance by Johnson makes a lot of sense. It would be nice to have a government that actually runs the country instead of playing oneupmanship with its own party. The added bonus for Johnson is that as pointed out above Ellwood is not supporting the obvious Johnson preferred candidate of Truss, so he's also taken away one of Mordor's votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: No, they didn't. Johnson resigned before a second VONC in him was called. It's fairly obvious he would have lost a second VONC but it was never called Well not officially but they had no confidence in him staying as head of the government. He was struggling to fill ministerial roles by the end. However they don't want to call an election as it is all about self-preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Well not officially but they had no confidence in him staying as head of the government. He was struggling to fill ministerial roles by the end. However they don't want to call an election as it is all about self-preservation. Them not wanting Johnson as their leader has absolutely no bearing on them calling a General Election nor should it, we have a parliamentary system and that is a feature of that system The Tories got the most seats in the General Election, that gives them a mandate for up to 5 years. Not one person in this country voted for a Prime Minister 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 59 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: For someone so smart she acts very dumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 BBC next in line to give these words removed free air time for something the public have no choice on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, a m ole said: BBC next in line to give these words removed free air time for something the public have no choice on Great, someone buy them some buns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: Not to put too fine a point on it, but weren't her parents a GP and some kind of professor? "Working class hero is something to be." Edited July 19, 2022 by Marka Ragnos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Not to put too fine a point on it, but weren't her parents a GP and some kind of professor? "Working class hero is something to be." Her parents were not in the UK, she was sent here to stay with a friend as the political situation in Nigeria had deteriorated. She was born in the UK so was a UK citizen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Davkaus said: So in this case, he was in Moldova, they ordered him back, and he didn't. It's not clear why he was there, may have just been a holiday. This is having actual consequences on government business and our reputation abroad though. Alok Sharma isn't turning up to Berlin for the Petersberg Climate Dialogue, because he's been told he has to stay and vote in the tory infighting contest. Despite him still being the active president from COP26, we have no ministerial representation there. I’ve worked in Moldova before. Nice people, but you wouldn’t go there on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Reckon that's Sunak and Truss nailed on now. Edited July 19, 2022 by ml1dch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Kemi elminated Shows how out of touch the tories are if they think truss is going to win them an election. Also they ousted boris but are voting for sunak a borislyte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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