bickster Posted July 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Very impressive that he managed to reduce his support between nominations and votes. Sunak's dirty tricks team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: Mordor is going to be PM isn't she Or Truss. I think it'll come down to Sunak vs Mordor or Sunak vs Truss. I don't expect Sunak to win against either If it was Mordor vs Truss, which is possible but not that likely I think Mordor will win that too Not had a chance to look at the figures yet though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I guess we've all been there where you really need a good scratch, but you'd think that at (possibly) your final PMQs as Prime Minister, you'd fight the urge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I guess we've all been there where you really need a good scratch, but you'd think that at (possibly) your final PMQs as Prime Minister, you'd fight the urge. Truss looks loke she's about to gag. Dorries has a kind of "go on, get right in there, what I wouldn't do to you" kinda look on her face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I guess we've all been there where you really need a good scratch, but you'd think that at (possibly) your final PMQs as Prime Minister, you'd fight the urge. GoNads appears to trying to have a good suruptitious sniff there and then fighting hard to control her urges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Im glad its not hunt that guys a utter utter melt. The way he ignored junior doctors with their new contracts when he was health minister. One doctor was trying to speak with and he just blanked him. A utterly detestable human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Johnson may have inadvertently let slip that the leader could be selected next week without it going to the members and today being his last PMQ's. What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ender4 said: What did he say? He just said that today might be his last PMQs, even though there's no reason (in terms of the parliamentary timetable) that he wouldn't be doing one next week. But he's never really been a details man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I guess we've all been there where you really need a good scratch, but you'd think that at (possibly) your final PMQs as Prime Minister, you'd fight the urge. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2022 I feel like I shouldn't be allowed to weigh in on this, as it's not really my concern directly any more ... but oh gawd, it's so tempting. I don't think I'd vote Labour were I in the UK again (my last MP was actually Jeremy in Islington, and I supported him then -- not a fan now -- it's that dumb hat, I fear), but from afar, were I Tory (and I don't know if I could stomach that, either, tbh), I'd probably hope for Sunak or Truss. Sunak seems brilliant to me, and Truss, too, very intelligent and also humane but hawkish, too, which I like. Badenoch and Braverman both seem ill-tempered and obsessed with stupid stuff. Not people I'd want in charge. Mordaunt doesn't really seem to have many ideas -- it's more about her being her. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: I guess we've all been there where you really need a good scratch, but you'd think that at (possibly) your final PMQs as Prime Minister, you'd fight the urge. Dorries looks like she's fighting the urge to lick her lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted July 13, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Marka Ragnos said: Truss, too, very intelligent Everyone's entitled to a considered opinion but c'mon, she's thick as mince (apart from Maths) I hope it's Truss too because she's a one woman festival of gaffes 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, bickster said: Everyone's entitled to a considered opinion but c'mon, she's thick as mince (apart from Maths) I hope it's Truss too because she's a one woman festival of gaffes Of course, there are different ways of being stupid, I suppose. To me, "gaffes" can often be more about arrogance and character than intelligence. I guess I like the way she seemed focused on the conservative themes of competitiveness and also respecting people's personal boundaries, unless I've got it wrong? But I've always had a sad weakness for people good at maths. Even my son is 10X better at trigonometry than I ever was -- or 10x squared? As I said, I'm probably unequal to the task on this topic when you add it all up ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Something I don't think I've really seen mentioned - if I were Sunak I wouldn't be counting my chickens. Let's say the right and Johnson loyalists all pile in behind Truss (and when Braverman and Badenoch crash, their votes are going somewhere) - that's 130 or so votes. The Hunt / Tugendhat one-nation types go Mordaunt over Sunak. That's 130 or so. If a dozen career types who backed Sunak originally because they wanted to be on the ground floor with the winner, switch in a secret ballot because they see the wind blowing a different way... I still think it will be Sunak + 1, but it's a route I've not seen anyone suggesting as realistic, and I can't see why it isn't. Someone tell me why it isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I still think it will be Sunak + 1, but it's a route I've not seen anyone suggesting as realistic, and I can't see why it isn't. Someone tell me why it isn't. I said above that its an outside chance of Truss vs Mordant. I do think its the least likely of the three major matchups but its certainly possible And the more Sunak appears to tank with the grassroots, the stronger the chances of defections from the Sunak camp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 What a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: What a joke! Absolutely ridiculous. He nearly had a bloody heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Mordant over sunak for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Brumstopdogs said: What a joke! When the supply teacher has lost control 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: Sunak seems brilliant to me, and Truss, too, very intelligent and also humane but hawkish, too, which I like. I'm speechless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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