magnkarl Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Crikey, the MP's giving him an applause really do love self harm, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 They say every cloud has a silver lining. Our political system isn’t perfect. But it’s the best in the world. Regardless of your political view you have to acknowledge that we’ve never had a leader encouraging the population to storm parliament or taking steps to install them self as a dictator. The system is there to stop it. Bozo is the worst and most dishonest PM we’ve had in my lifetime. But compared to the rest of the world he’s not even on the Top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) What was the reference to "Darwinian System" all about. Is that a dig at the suggestion the 1922 committee was going to change it's rules to oust him? Edited July 7, 2022 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Well...exactly. That's precisely why he's not going to get "kicked out" isn't it? When i said kicked out i meant in terms of kicked out because he will lose his seat like balls did. Hope that clears it up for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 He's given himself 2 months to try and find a way round this and he is definitely going to try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, sidcow said: What was the referenced to "Darwinian System" all about. Is that a dig at the suggestion the 1922 committee was going to change it's rules to oust him? He was trying to convey that the next PM will be “even better”. The best survive. The weak don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: When i said kicked out i meant in terms of kicked out because he will lose his seat like balls did. Hope that clears it up for you I don’t think he’ll lose his seat, he’ll give it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Even though he has been a gernally awful PM and probably one of the most corrupt we gave had, it was probably one of the toughest PM jobs with brexit then covid. Ill give him that although brexit was mainly his fault as he campaigned for it so no sympathy for me on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: They say every cloud has a silver lining. Our political system isn’t perfect. But it’s the best in the world. Regardless of your political view you have to acknowledge that we’ve never had a leader encouraging the population to storm parliament or taking steps to install them self as a dictator. The system is there to stop it. Bozo is the worst and most dishonest PM we’ve had in my lifetime. But compared to the rest of the world he’s not even on the Top 20. True. But we got closer to that than ever before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Genie said: I don’t think he’ll lose his seat, he’ll give it up. Yeah he probably will as i think even worse for his ego than be relegated ti back benches would him not winning his seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 7, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: I don’t think he’ll lose his seat, he’ll give it up. GBNews TV show awaits 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Genie said: I don’t think he’ll lose his seat, he’ll give it up. No chance, I wouldn't be surprised if the new leader gives him some kind of ministerial role. The responsibility to be rid of him once and for all falls on the people of Uxbridge and South Ruislip in two years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 7, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted July 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: Our political system isn’t perfect. But it’s the best in the world Nah, it's neither. And the reasons for both are the same - too wedded to (often unwritten) tradition. It's completely unfit for the modern world. It does have some strongpoints, but I think other nations who took our system and then evolved it have better systems than us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: When i said kicked out i meant in terms of kicked out because he will lose his seat like balls did. He won't lose his seat like Ed Balls did. Ed Balls stood for election, was beaten (by Andrea Jenkyns) and was removed from Parliament by the electorate. He was very much, kicked out. Boris Johnson will resign his seat sometime between now and the Autumn, and a by-election will take place to elect his replacement. There is no similarity between the two situations. Nobody will be "kicking (Johnson) out" from his parliamentary seat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2022 He keeps banging on about his mandate (which isn't even his but is the party's) He was elected on one issue - to get Brexit done. Which he's done although Brexiteers will never agree he's done badly. How many of those traditional Labour voters who voted Tory because of Brexit are now going to continue to vote Tory? How many traditional Lib Dem voters will stay with them? His enormous mandate is scotch mist and is now irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Even though he has been a gernally awful PM and probably one of the most corrupt we gave had, it was probably one of the toughest PM jobs with brexit then covid. Ill give him that although brexit was mainly his fault as he campaigned for it so no sympathy for me on that one Covid was difficult but he had an army of advisors who he often ignored. Also the rest of the world was also dealing with it too so he could look at what worked or didn’t work with them and make his decisions based on that. Brexit as you say, zero sympathy for the mess he made of that. He’s alright, his family are alright, his colleagues are alright, the other 99% of the population have to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, bickster said: GBNews TV show awaits That's more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I guess Carry doesn't live there anymore! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 When the dust settles, I do wonder which of Cameron, May, and Johnson goes down as the worst PM in modern history (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Even though he has been a gernally awful PM and probably one of the most corrupt we gave had, it was probably one of the toughest PM jobs with brexit then covid. Ill give him that although brexit was mainly his fault as he campaigned for it so no sympathy for me on that one I dont actually think it was. The Vaccine roll out fell into his lap really - The COVID decisions basically starred him in the face ,The war in Ukrainne probably saved his ass back in Feb/March All decisions where what to do was pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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