Guest Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Genie said: Most people in work isnt it? Or that could be another regular lie. And here ‘lies’ the problem, they tell so many lies that it’s hard to know what’s real and what isn’t and then we expect people to understand that too. It’s hard enough for people switched on to it, let alone people who aren’t. It’s deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 hours ago, ml1dch said: "Drawing a line under all this" latest: I full expect the photo/video evidence Sue Gray has will make it look like Boris taking part in a year long uni Freshers week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Mozzavfc said: I full expect the photo/video evidence Sue Gray has will make it look like Boris taking part in a year long uni Freshers week I really don’t expect that report will ever see the light of day. They’ve done everything in their power to delay it’s publication so far. If it’s half as bad as they’re saying they’ll find any reason possible not to release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: I really don’t expect that report will ever see the light of day. They’ve done everything in their power to delay it’s publication so far. If it’s half as bad as they’re saying they’ll find any reason possible not to release. I think the only reason for it not to come out would be if Boris has already gone by the point its releasable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Genie said: I think the only reason for it not to come out would be if Boris has already gone by the point its releasable. That's the only reason it will be released. To be honest, the Sue Gray report is somewhat irrelevant now the Police are investigating and issuing fines. If we're on about buried reports, I'd much rather they released the Russia Report but that won't be happening this side of the next apocalypse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Boris will walk the day before the report is due out if its fully approved to see the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, desensitized43 said: I really don’t expect that report will ever see the light of day. They’ve done everything in their power to delay it’s publication so far. If it’s half as bad as they’re saying they’ll find any reason possible not to release. I don't think that's politically all that sustainable. Given it would be in the context of a poor local elections performance and the continued drip, drip of further fines and revelations saying that they weren't going to release the report would look worse than whatever the report said. Not releasing it escalates, not deescalates the story. And you'd imagine that it would probably find its way into the open anyway, giving them the worst of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: I don't think that's politically all that sustainable. Given it would be in the context of a poor local elections performance and the continued drip, drip of further fines and revelations saying that they weren't going to release the report would look worse than whatever the report said. Not releasing it escalates, not deescalates the story. And you'd imagine that it would probably find its way into the open anyway, giving them the worst of both worlds. However releasing the report escalates the story too. It's a tough spot to be in. It's lucky they got all the big calls right, can you imagine how bad things could be for them if they didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 18 hours ago, bickster said: Right so what are the Tories up to today because as much as lots of things aren't dead cats, this one's flesh is falling off the bones Labour falling for it hook line and sinker though This is classic 1980s Student Union politics, quick say something obviously sexist to get the lefties jumping up and down, worked every time then and it appears to be working to this day. I mean its actually got Angela Rayner thanking Johnson for sticking up for her. Sometimes the Labour Party are so predictable I'll wager Conservative Central Office are absolutely pissing themselves laughing This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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desensitized43 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 hours ago, ml1dch said: I don't think that's politically all that sustainable. Given it would be in the context of a poor local elections performance and the continued drip, drip of further fines and revelations saying that they weren't going to release the report would look worse than whatever the report said. Not releasing it escalates, not deescalates the story. And you'd imagine that it would probably find its way into the open anyway, giving them the worst of both worlds. They’re very much caught between a rock and a hard place on it. If they believe that the details are so bad that it’ll destroy them then they won’t release it. There’s likely to be a vote in parliament to force its release which would be a de facto no confidence vote. I feel like they’re arrogant enough that they if they delay and delay it’ll blunt the anger in the public and on their own backbenches where they could try and control its release. Dont forget these are the people that lied to the monarch in order to illegally prorogue parliament. They think they’re untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Straggler said: However releasing the report escalates the story too. It's a tough spot to be in. It's lucky they got all the big calls right, can you imagine how bad things could be for them if they didn't? Wait, what?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: Wait, what?! Woooosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 We have been blighted with graffiti of the conspiracy variety in Stafford over the past couple of years, 5g, masks are muzzles. Bonkers shit. This appeared this week and I endorse this message. It's opposite the exit to Asda. It's no "boil Thatcher" but as Stafford are slow to act on graffiti, it should linger for years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: We have been blighted with graffiti of the conspiracy variety in Stafford over the past couple of years, 5g, masks are muzzles. Bonkers shit. This appeared this week and I endorse this message. It's opposite the exit to Asda. It's no "boil Thatcher" but as Stafford are slow to act on graffiti, it should linger for years I blame Thatcher for the bad grammar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted April 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2022 Well, that ought to do it. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61227622 Quote Ministers have pitched ideas to tackle the cost of living, as record inflation pushes up food and energy prices. Boris Johnson called for proposals from his team - that do not rely on spending taxpayers' money - during Tuesday's cabinet meeting. The BBC has learned that the PM said he wanted to reduce childcare costs by easing health and safety rules. And sources said Transport Secretary Grant Shapps suggested relaxing the frequency of MOTs. Delays at the Passport Office were also raised, with Mr Johnson threatening to privatise the service if it did not start delivering better value for money. One of the proposals came from the PM himself, with sources saying he wanted to lower the legal limits on adult supervision for children in England, as part of a drive to reduce living costs. A source in the meeting said Mr Johnson had joked about knowing about the high cost of childcare - he has fathered at least seven children - before telling ministers the government had to get on with reducing costs. Less supervision for toddlers, more unsafe vehicles on the roads, and cutting the passport office to the bone, then flogging it off to grant a private company a monopoly on an essential public service. That's Conservative government for you in a nutshell. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Not great news for the garages that rely on MOT’s to make ends meet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Those policy ideas are very reminiscent of that scene in the Thick Of It where they're driving to a press briefing and have to work out what policy they're announcing in the back of the car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: he has fathered at least seven children What a statement, what a guy. I bet even he doesn’t know the exact number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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