bickster Posted January 30, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, blandy said: I understood it to be fraud around loans to small businesses, not the furlough scheme, and that these loans were facilitated by banks as the guvmint’s intermediary - I’m sure I read somewhere that loads of them didn’t even exist! Could be mistaken It seems there are two stories doing the rounds, One is about the loans you mention and the other is about fraud in the Furlough, SEISS and Eat out Schemes and combined the figure is far higher than £4.3 bil (closer to £6bil) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted January 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, blandy said: I understood it to be fraud around loans to small businesses, not the furlough scheme, and that these loans were facilitated by banks as the guvmint’s intermediary - I’m sure I read somewhere that loads of them didn’t even exist! Could be mistaken If Banks were sending money out without checking who they were dealing with they'd be in breach of some serious stuff regarding KYC/AML/sanctions legislation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 30, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Rds1983 said: If Banks were sending money out without checking who they were dealing with they'd be in breach of some serious stuff regarding KYC/AML/sanctions legislation. It’s not something I know about, but that seems to be the gist of what I read. The banks didn’t do what they should have done wrt “who actually is our customer” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Nothing to see here folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Will the ministerial code get a mention? I assume his behaviour and subsequent lies will shit all over that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Will his changes to the top team be promoting those who have publicly backed him this last fortnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Shock horror 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 But the police report may take months, and Sue Gray may not even be in charge once it's done. It's a stitch up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Also I imagine "changes to his top team" means somebody relatively high profile will take the blame and get sacked or resign. Just like Stratton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: But the police report may take months, and Sue Gray may not even be in charge once it's done. It's a stitch up. It might and it could well be. But the two or three follow up tweets to the one you posted, Dan Hodges is adamant that Johnson is not out of the woods. Edited January 31, 2022 by Mark Albrighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Also I imagine "changes to his top team" means somebody relatively high profile will take the blame and get sacked or resign. Just like Stratton Or just the faceless civil servants working there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Also I imagine "changes to his top team" means somebody relatively high profile will take the blame and get sacked or resign. Just like Stratton Tbh, the person who sent out a party invite to 100 people should probably get some kind of disciplinary action, as should the person who was contacted to say it was wrong but pushed ahead anyway (as should Boris as overall boss). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StefanAVFC Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) On 28/01/2022 at 10:07, StefanAVFC said: It's clear what will happen. Sue Gray's report is damning. Met ask her to remove damning bits as they're investigating them. Report is released with no very little to pin on Johnson. Met drop their investigation. Not far off. The reality instead: Sue Gray's report is damning. Met ask her to remove damning bits as they're investigating them. Report is released with no very little to pin on Johnson. <- we are here Met complete their investigation with token penalty notices that aren't publicised ("we have completed our investigation and handed out x penalty notices to unnamed individuals") No10 refuse to publish full Sue Gray report Edited January 31, 2022 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 31, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Not far off. The reality instead: Sue Gray's report is damning. Met ask her to remove damning bits as they're investigating them. Report is released with no very little to pin on Johnson. <- we are here Met complete their investigation with token penalty notices that aren't publicised ("we have completed our investigation and handed out x penalty notices to unnamed individuals") No10 refuse to publish full Sue Gray report and then watch the internal forces that oppose Johnson, find some way, to find and leak the report (or even someone on Team Gray) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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choffer Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: and then watch the internal forces that oppose Johnson, find some way, to find and leak the report (or even someone on Team Gray) That's been my expectation throughout. It will be squashed initially, it'll leak, Bunter will deny that's actually the report, lift carpet, sweep report under it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Such as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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