StefanAVFC Posted July 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, snowychap said: I suppose there are many possibilities from the likes of a grudge or for money all the way through to another example of mischief-making in western democracies and the relationships between them. The leak found its way to Oakeshott, didn't it? That may indicate where my suspicions would go especially as the Banks/Tice/Farage lot jumped on it almost immediately to further their purge of the non-believers call. Yep this was my thought. Purging 'remainers' in the CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Farage getting any official position (other than piss boy) should trigger an immediate assemblage in Parliament Square. 30 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I'd love to read the notes mods have on us all Reckon we could probably guess 'On the sauce again'. 'If he swears one more time it's 5 points and a ban'. 'Utter word removed'. etc etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Amber Rudd drops opposition to no-deal Brexit Quote Amber Rudd, one of the leading cabinet opponents of hard Brexit, has publicly ditched her opposition to no deal as senior Tories jostle for position in a Boris Johnson cabinet. Rudd had previously joined with her cabinet colleagues David Gauke and Greg Clark to force Theresa May to take no deal off the table to stop the UK crashing out at the end of March. But with Johnson on the brink of No 10, she has changed her mind, telling TalkRadio on Thursday morning: “Both candidates have said that no deal is part of the armoury going forward, and I have accepted that. “The situation is that we are leaving at the end of October but it would be so much better to get a deal. What we really need is for everybody’s effort to go into trying to get a deal.” Friends of Rudd said she would like to keep her job as work and pensions secretary in a Johnson cabinet and it was better to be around the cabinet table as an influence than on the backbenches. ...full article on link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: Amber Rudd drops opposition to no-deal Brexit Cowardice of the highest order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 hours ago, bickster said: The real questions are, who leaked? and Why? That's what I want to know. It's a complete and utter cover up the whole Johnson didn't deny having him in post. Smokescreen to who the actually guilty party who leaked it. That's the person we should be after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2019 Jesus Christ, we're **** aren't we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, snowychap said: "Amber Rudd, one of the leading cabinet opponents of hard Brexit..." Eh? She voted for that every time the withdrawal agreement was put to a vote in Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 4 hours ago, snowychap said: No, we're not. We're arguing about your interpretation of the record You are wrong. Top quality rant bantz, but you've missed the point pretty much totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2019 38 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Eh? She voted for that every time the withdrawal agreement was put to a vote in Parliament. She also jumped back into the cabinet from the Soubry / Grieve faction at the drop of a hat. Opportunists have very few principals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bickster said: She also jumped back into the cabinet from the Soubry / Grieve faction at the drop of a hat. Opportunists have very few principals true , but it's only by engaging with both sides that you can bring about a solution Edited July 11, 2019 by tonyh29 about not around 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: You are wrong. Top quality rant bantz, but you've missed the point pretty much totally. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 hours ago, snowychap said: The leak found its way to Oakeshott, didn't it? That may indicate where my suspicions would go especially as the Banks/Tice/Farage lot jumped on it almost immediately to further their purge of the non-believers call. There's some interesting pics of her with some quite loathsome types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, snowychap said: Yawn. see, now we all know what we all think of each other and nobody has felt the need to write the words thin skinned or inept it can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: see, now we all know what we all think of each other and nobody has felt the need to write the words thin skinned or inept it can be done You appear to be labouring under a misapprehension that we are on the same side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, snowychap said: You appear to be labouring under a misapprehension that we are on the same side. I feel this has descended in to two lovers both wanting the other to hang up the phone first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VILLAMARV Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 See, this is what happens when you present the country with a Bojo/RhymingSlang XFactor Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I feel this has descended in to two lovers both wanting the other to hang up the phone first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Quote Britain is run by a self-serving clique. That’s why it’s in crisis Government and culture are dominated by the same narrow section of the population. It’s no way to run a country Last week Boris Johnson delivered a speech to a Royal Horticultural Society audience in Wisley, Surrey, before heading to the affluent village of Oxshott to buy some fennel and tarragon sausages and have a cup of tea in the Munch and Wiggles cafe. In a series of interviews later that day, he was unwilling to reveal the provenance of the staged photograph of him and his partner, Carrie Symonds. He was, however, able to insist that Britain would leave the European Union, “do or die”, by the end of October. On the same day, the Sutton Trust and the Social Mobility Commission issued a report into elitism in Britain that “paints a picture of a country whose power structures are dominated by a narrow section of the population [where] social mobility is low and not improving”. Those who went to private school comprise 7 per cent of the country’s population but 39 per cent of the elite; those who went to Oxford or Cambridge university comprise less than 1 per cent of the population but 24 per cent of the elite. Senior judges, junior ministers, permanent secretaries and diplomats are among the least representative professions. But the media, and particularly newspaper columnists, are right up there, too. There is a clear and undeniable link between the entrenched and calcifying class stratification in British society and the inept chaos in which we currently find ourselves. The gene puddle from which the elite siphons its ranks has become shallow and fetid. Those who make the laws in government, oversee the civil service that will implement them, adjudicate on them in court or assess them in newspapers, are drawn from such a narrow social layer that they might as well be the same person. Irish Times 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 12, 2019 Popped up on my Spotify today but somes the feckers up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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