Jon Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The Lewes 'Guy'. Brilliant!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 whose it supposed to be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Peppa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 5, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2015 It's that threat to National Charcuterie, isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 whose it supposed to be ?It belongs to the people of Lewes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 whose it supposed to be ? It belongs to the people of Lewes.They bottled it by leaving his pants on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 They bottled it by leaving his pants on. Lest we forget. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 They bottled it by leaving his pants on. Lest we forget. perish the thought that we forget a fabricated incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 If an alleged incident is denied does that make it a fabricated incident or an allegedly fabricated incident? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 5, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2015 perish the thought that we forget a fabricated incident Yes, it was complete hogwash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snowychap Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) For 'balance' (I gather that's important), Alan Johnson (whom I normally like even if/when I disagree with him) also supports this load of shit. Apparently, it's okay because MI5 used to steam open people's letters by the hundreds of thousands in the '70s. What a clearing in the woods. Edited November 7, 2015 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The excuse the intelligence gathering people gave when they failed to prevent the attack on the twin-towers was that there was just too much data to pick out the plotters.So what is their chosen solution for preventing future attacks?More data! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 And so few people seem to give a shit.The **** John Lewis Christmas ad is getting more media coverage than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 6, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2015 The excuse the intelligence gathering people gave when they failed to prevent the attack on the twin-towers was that there was just too much data to pick out the plotters.So what is their chosen solution for preventing future attacks?More data!To be fair, what Theresa May is proposing for the UK is illegal in the U.S and every other Western Democracy. The level of snooping on private citizens is not deemed acceptable everywhere else. I'm pretty sure even the DDR would have thought it a bit OTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 And so few people seem to give a shit. The **** John Lewis Christmas ad is getting more media coverage than this. True. Once I had got over the nauseating saccharine sentimentality, I found it amusing how it showed that in this age of obsession with paedophiles, the only old man who a young girl could be shown giving a present to, has to be safely stranded on the ******* moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 As a by-product of general snooping, the CIA do pick up some sensitive industrial and commercial data. Some of this information is passed on to US industry, just to help them out a bit.Does anyone trust the current crop of arseholes in power not to abuse similarly acquired information here?And so few people seem to give a shit.The **** John Lewis Christmas ad is getting more media coverage than this.Remember the civil unrest outside Downing St in May? Mainstream media here sheepishly picked up the story, only after it was all over social media (and Russia Today, obviously). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) The excuse the intelligence gathering people gave when they failed to prevent the attack on the twin-towers was that there was just too much data to pick out the plotters.So what is their chosen solution for preventing future attacks?More data!To be fair, what Theresa May is proposing for the UK is illegal in the U.S and every other Western Democracy. The level of snooping on private citizens is not deemed acceptable everywhere else. I'm pretty sure even the DDR would have thought it a bit OTT.Would it be much of an exaggeration to state that every power to intrude and every law presented as necessary to prevent terrorism has been abused? Edited November 6, 2015 by MakemineVanilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) As a by-product of general snooping, the CIA do pick up some sensitive industrial and commercial data. Some of this information is passed on to US industry, just to help them out a bit.Does anyone trust the current crop of arseholes in power not to abuse similarly acquired information here?And so few people seem to give a shit.The **** John Lewis Christmas ad is getting more media coverage than this.Remember the civil unrest outside Downing St in May? Mainstream media here sheepishly picked up the story, only after it was all over social media (and Russia Today, obviously).is it the / a government that will abuse this data ?or is it agencies like SIS that will abuse it , I genuinely don't know if intelligence service act under a directive from May or the PM... the cynic in me thinks the timing off the Russian plane and the fact our agency found the chatter to determine it was a bomb is going to be used as part of the justification for this snoopers charter .... Ultimately these powers just like Labours obsession / abuse of CCTV won't prevent crime but will just make it easier to ID the bloke they are scrapping off the underground and who he is working with Edited November 8, 2015 by tonyh29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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