snowychap Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Has she mentioned the death penalty yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 stopped watching it after a few minutes, had that hateful Daily Mail woman on there and it was sucking all the air out of the room anyway...everybody dance now....dvvv, dvvv dvvv dvvv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Probably the next PM as things stand ... Who'd have thought that 5 years agothough of course 2020 is a long long way away in political terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 fair play to tory MP Priti Patel on QT tonighther first answer to the first question - 'it was Labour's fault'that's one 'on message' drone right thereshe then went on (and I paraphrase) to basically say things have changed since my family arrived, we're now full She has always been an exceptionally high level word removed. She's a part of that odious Britannia Unbrained crew, boasting dimwitted toffee nosed clearings in the woods such as Chris Skidmore and Liz Truss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Probably the next PM as things stand ... Who'd have thought that 5 years agothough of course 2020 is a long long way away in political termsThat's pretty much how I see it, he's a shoe in for the job (they'll let May hang herself with more and more extremist UKIP bantz) providing nothing comes out of left field - like the picture finally emerges of Cameron and it was actually gideon dressed as a pig, not a real dead pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 fair play to tory MP Priti Patel on QT tonighther first answer to the first question - 'it was Labour's fault'that's one 'on message' drone right thereshe then went on (and I paraphrase) to basically say things have changed since my family arrived, we're now full She has always been an exceptionally high level word removed. She's a part of that odious Britannia Unbrained crew, boasting dimwitted toffee nosed clearings in the woods such as Chris Skidmore and Liz Truss.do you want some ketchup with those chips ? ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It’s been revealed today that the NHS trusts in England have in the first 3 months of the year knocked up an almost billion pound deficit which is predicted to be at least 2 billion over the year. On top of that the 62 day cancer waiting time target has been missed for the past 16 months and the four-hour A&E target has been missed for 11 of the past 12 months. In addition I watched the ITV program last night showing that elderly social care is now pretty much broken with many providers not in a position to tender for future contracts or having to back out of existing ones due to a lack of funding in local authorities.Where are we heading as a society here. Surely the care we provide for the sick and the elderly should be top of any Governments agenda but under this one it has been grossly neglected and underfunded.At the one end of the scale we have young people leaving Universities loaded with debt or struggling to get on the housing ladder due to a lack of affordable homes. The alternative being to pay through the nose due to uncontrolled private rents. At the other end we have elderly people suffering due to a lack of or poor social care or being left in hospitals for months on end as there is nowhere for them to go. Then affecting the vast majority of us we have the NHS on its knees going backwards in terms of waiting times.No matter what political persuasion you are surely all this can’t be acceptable for what is one of the richest countries in the world. The conservatives though it seems believe they have been given a mandate to destroy our public services. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders Posted October 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2015 intentionally underfunded to make it seem like lobbyists with their private supporters have the answers. Force people to pay for it twice, through taxation and charges to some company on top. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PongRiddims Posted October 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2015 All schools to becomes academies in five years? Frightening, I work with a lot of schools, Local Authority responsible and academies, most academies wish they were LA maintained still, even those that have opted to changed and not been forced to. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It’s been revealed today that the NHS trusts in England have in the first 3 months of the year knocked up an almost billion pound deficit which is predicted to be at least 2 billion over the year... Mr Hunt's reaction to the story: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I suggest you write to him and tell him to change his bio and then edit his wiki page whilst you're at it.... Sensible people wouldn't read or take notice of either. he may not be a fan of Corbyn , but he's not alone there amongst Labour supporters and he wasn't a fan of Ed , again he's not alone there amongst labour supporters , but to to say he isn't a labour supporter is like saying Hitler wasn't a National socialist He wasn't a fan of Brown either (is he on record about Kinnock or Foot or Callaghan or Wilson or Attlee?). I think he was only ever really a 'fan' of Blair. And now he's a 'fan' of Cameron. I think there's a parallel there and it tells us largely what we need to know about Mr Hodges and his politics. Exactly, he's a 'supporter' who just happens to hate all of the membership to the left of himself, has hated the last three leaders, and is in love with the leader of the other party. Some 'supporter'. I'm trying to think of an equivalent pundit who just pretends to be a Tory but actually despises the members and the leadership and basically everything about the party, but there just isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted October 11, 2015 Author Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2015 Haven't seen / heard Cameron's speech yet but We cannot let that man inflict his security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology on the country we love.is piss poor stuff Daveit is. Thing is though they (and it is "they") are sure it'll work. At every opportunity they and their newspapers will repeat it. It's also the same tack they used with the financial crash (saying it was caused by labour, over and over again). Both assertions are completely false, but they know that for a large part of the population the repeating of the lie will settle into their conscious as "fact". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 It’s been revealed today that the NHS trusts in England have in the first 3 months of the year knocked up an almost billion pound deficit which is predicted to be at least 2 billion over the year. On top of that the 62 day cancer waiting time target has been missed for the past 16 months and the four-hour A&E target has been missed for 11 of the past 12 months. In addition I watched the ITV program last night showing that elderly social care is now pretty much broken with many providers not in a position to tender for future contracts or having to back out of existing ones due to a lack of funding in local authorities. Where are we heading as a society here. Surely the care we provide for the sick and the elderly should be top of any Governments agenda but under this one it has been grossly neglected and underfunded. At the one end of the scale we have young people leaving Universities loaded with debt or struggling to get on the housing ladder due to a lack of affordable homes. The alternative being to pay through the nose due to uncontrolled private rents. At the other end we have elderly people suffering due to a lack of or poor social care or being left in hospitals for months on end as there is nowhere for them to go. Then affecting the vast majority of us we have the NHS on its knees going backwards in terms of waiting times. No matter what political persuasion you are surely all this can’t be acceptable for what is one of the richest countries in the world. The conservatives though it seems believe they have been given a mandate to destroy our public services. The NHS needs so much money just to stand still. If we are having to add a city's-worth of people to the country each year, plus wanting 24/7 service, the strain is going to become unbearable. Tbf they did announce a big house-building scheme designed for first time buyers, but whether it's enough I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The media are playing the usual game of throwing huge numbers at the public and failing to put those amounts into perspective, so we all freak out.With £117bn already budgeted for the NHS in 15/16 (as opposed to £113bn 14/15) a deficit of less than 2% does not look like the end of the world as we know it and a budget is just a budget and the government has no choice but find the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 We actually spend less per head of population on health then most other major nations. If it wasn't for the fact the NHS is so efficient, take note Mr Hunt, things would be much worse.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 We actually spend less per head of population on health then most other major nations. If it wasn't for the fact the NHS is so efficient, take note Mr Hunt, things would be much worse..Current health expenditure in the UK was 8.46 per cent of GDP in 2013. This compares to 16.43 per cent in the USA, 11.12 per cent in the Netherlands, 10.98 per cent in Germany, 10.95 per cent in France, 10.40 per cent in Denmark, 10.16 per cent in Canada and 8.77 per cent in Italy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) American has the most inefficient healthcare system in the world Edited October 12, 2015 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 All schools to becomes academies in five years? Frightening, I work with a lot of schools, Local Authority responsible and academies, most academies wish they were LA maintained still, even those that have opted to changed and not been forced to.A stupid policy enacted by Labour and widened by the Tories. Puts LA's in a shit position too - you're responsible in law for all the outcomes with absolutely no control over the delivery. Crazy. No-one comes out of this with any credit. The last people that should be running schools are Head Teachers - much like Dr's are the last people that should be running the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 The media are playing the usual game of throwing huge numbers at the public and failing to put those amounts into perspective, so we all freak out.With £117bn already budgeted for the NHS in 15/16 (as opposed to £113bn 14/15) a deficit of less than 2% does not look like the end of the world as we know it and a budget is just a budget and the government has no choice but find the money. Isn't the problem that a big % of that £117bn is going on agency staff and making these agencies a fortune in commissions ... throwing headline grabbing money at the NHS isn't enough , they need to address some of this wastage ... I saw a hospital in Essex was advertising for a Reiki consultant , so there's a saving to be made at the stroke of a pen ..I'm sure there are others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Drs are the last people that should be running the NHS. Last but one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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